From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] possible eloquence solution

Hi,

The only screen reader that I know of that allowed you to turn off expansion
Of abbreviations was Window-Eyes. Therefore, if that is possible, NVDA should be
Able to do it on a synth-by-synth basis.

All the best

Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler
Wood
Sent: 18 July 2018 08:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] possible eloquence solution

I despise modern voices for doing anything but light reading. Espeak is
Decent, but in my view the best two synths for fast reading remain
Eloquence and doubletalk. If I want to get correct spellings, I will use a more
Modern voice. ...but then you get random pauses for no reason, miss
pronouncing random words like bourbon and expanding acronyms that I
do not want.


I cannot win.
On 18-Jul-2018 1:52 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes, I am sure you know that several attempts were made by NV access to
have a license system that was not too onerous, but no. I do think
I that it is rubbish but acknowledge a lot find it good. It
obviously is a personal thing.
I to do agree that modern voices are unintelligible at fast, even
moderate speeds.

I as you know made the variant Quincy for UK English Espeak and am
happy with it in the main if they would stop mucking about with words
that sounded right before. However I do also feel that the speech
player in Espeak project was very good and I'd like to see somebody
take this up again to make it better for the US market. One has to
realize now though that the biggest growth area for NVDA is
the Indian Subcontinent, and maybe other languages than English.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@comproom.co.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] possible eloquence solution


Why should they do this? You are effectively stopping Code Factory
from making money. Just buy Eloquence and be done with it. Besides,
Microsoft would not maintain it.



All the best


Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Josh

Kennedy
Sent: 17 July 2018 13:11
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [NVDA] possible eloquence solution
It seems like unless this problem is solved it will keep coming up. So
I just went into feedback hub and I recommend all of you do the same.
I wrote the following feedback to Microsoft.

Please purchase all rights to Code Factory Nuance Eloquence TTS. Offer
it as a free downloadable sapi 5 and OneCore voice add-ons under ease of
access in windows 10. And on the Microsoft website as sapi 5 for
windows 7 users. Also, please maintain the android version so it keeps
working and perhaps lower the price to $2 or $3. Nuance Code Factory
licenses are too restrictive. Adding Eloquence to Microsoft’s voice
portfolio would benefit those with hearing impairments. So if
Microsoft owned it, whenever you buy a copy of windows or a new pc,
you also pay for the rite to use eloquence on any pc you buy. And if
you don’t want it, you just do not go into ease of access and download
it. Nuance copyright is stuck back in the 80's and early 90s and has to
change. If not, this issue will probably keep cropping up.





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