Re: Introduction, and a question

Tyler Wood

I have gotten the message to scan drives even if I safely remove hardware. Windows 8.1 and 10 have always been very picky about that and a scan rarely takes more than a minute or two these days.

If it's a drive I have valuable data on, like key pass databases etc, I will safely remove it. On the other hand I haven't had any problems not clicking this button - common sense is your best friend here - and if files aren't being written or read to or from the drive, you're generally fine. Of course, in this day and age where every single thing requires the internet, something is almost always using the drive for something - windows defender and other antiviruses most prevalently.

On 23-Jul-2018 1:17 PM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

Whenever you plug in a drive, you get the message to scan it.

Once you do scan it, it is good for a time, or unless you change the drive label.

That is one I escape out of all the time.



From: <> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question


I don't know what messages you are talking about.  if you use safely remove hardware, there is no canned message about scanning and removing.  If the drive can safely be removed, you get a message that the drive can safely be removed.  If it can't, you get a message that it can't.  I haven't seen any reputable advisor, such as Kim Komando, advocate ignoring such messages.  I've said that at times, it is alright to remove a drive if you get a not safe to remove message, such as in the case of when you run NVDA from a thumb drive.  In a specific case like that, where you unload NVDA but you still can't remove the drive, it is because a file is still being used by Windows.  it is not released by Windows for some reason and It won't be.  I explained in previous messages what I would do.  I see that Joseph Lee seems to give a much shorter waiting time, if I understand his message correctly.  But usually, when a file is not being held in use by Windows for no reason, if you get a message that it is unsafe to remove a drive, it isn't and you should use safely remove hardware again to see if you get the safe to remove announcement. 


You may get away with ignoring such messages and not using Safely Remove hardware most of the time but what about the time when you don't?  These features aren't just placed in Windows because some programmer had nothing to do.  They are placed there for a reason. 


You can set parameters regarding external drives so that you never have to use Safely remove Hardware.  I won't go into that here.  But unless you know the parameters are set in that way, I wouldn't take the chance. 


How do I know what Joe stranger or Joe friend or public library administrator did, if anything, regarding these settings?


----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:34 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question


I don't see the possibility of corrupting any files.
I ignore those canned messages from Microsoft about scanning and removing.
But if you scan it once, it should not ask you again for that particular drive for some time.
But I never power down drives and have never had a problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question


I would like to use NVDA portible on a thumb drive on public computers.
And, friends computers.

So, I better double check some thing here.  If files do get corrupted, will it be just  on my thumb drive?  I sure do not want to mess up a computer that doesn't even belong to me.

Thanks for your thoughts,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

Well, In the main it seems to have no actual impact at all. Its a bit like an sd card I have it keeps on telling me its been disconnected  badly when I plug it in and can it scan it yet it finds no issues with it. I'm note sure if its some logging or just that windows 7 is a little slow at releasing files. I've seen this with the log file even on the installed copy that stops the update always running as the log is locked. Its easy to fix this, by esc and then a relaunch, but I am almost sure its on windows 7 machines with ssd drives for some odd reason.

Incidentally you may find that using a pen copy on windows 10 is not as useful as more of the operating system needs admin access to allow accessibility to work correctly so nvda tries to fall back to older apis and sometimes this is not very  much good.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

Ah, yes, that toggle fixed the problem.

And, I discovered a tutorial  in the NVDA help menu.  So, that problem is
also fixed.

I sure wish I had installed NVDA a long time ago.

Gene, I am going to ask you or, anyone another question.

I put NVDA Portible on a thumb drive.  I discovered that I can not do a safe
disconnect because Winndows 7 says that the files are still in use.  So, I
just powered down the box and disconnected that way.  Is this normal?  Orr,
is there a way around this?

Gene, thanks,

James B

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

Try NVDA key, either insert by default, f4.  You should hear either speak
command keys on or speak command keys off.   It's a toggle.  If off, you
shouldn't hear the announcement.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:34 AM
Subject: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

Hi all,

I am James Bentley from East Texas.

I recently installed NVDA out of curiosity and for a backup to Jaws.

I am extremely impressed with NVDA.  Its small, efficient, and surprisingly
powerful.  Especially since it is free of charge.  I predict it will
continue to grow and improve at a rapid rate.
May I start with 2 quick questions?

Is there a tutorial available?

And, Is it possible to stop NVDA from saying, arrow up or arrow down while I
am arrowing  up and down through a web page?

Many thanks.  And, I’m glad to be here.

James B


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