Re: Introduction, and a question


Antony Stone
 

I totally agree.

"Safely remove this device" was put there for a purpose.

Microsoft is good at making things as easy for the user (and hiding the
technical details) as possible - they wouldn't include something like this if
they didn't know there was a good reason behind it.

Antony.

On Monday 23 July 2018 at 22:46:35, Gene wrote:

A lot of people never wear seatbelts and nothing happens to them, but for
some people one day, ...

You are talking about probabilities. I don't believe in taking meaningless
risks, even if small, to save a bit of work executing a few commands.

A lot of people don't use safely remove hardware for a long time and
nothing happens to them. But for some people, one day,...

Gene


From: Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question


All I can state is that I have been doing this all along, with no problems.

Glenn





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question



It isn't a good idea to assume things regarding computers. See this
article.

https://www.howtogeek.com/118546/htg-explains-do-you-really-need-to-safely-
remove-usb-sticks/



And note that, this article doesn't apply to XP in some ways. In XP, the
default is not the same as in Windows 7. XP caches material by default,
Windows 7 doesn't.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:07 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question



Well, I know by checking the percentage when sending a file, and a minute
of inactivity will be long enough for any process that is automatic.

Glenn



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question



How do you know? Maybe you know in the case of a mechanical external hard
drive if you hear it make sounds, and they have gotten increasingly quiet
over the years, but there is no way to tell with a thumb drive, having no
moving parts.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:12 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question



Windows always gives the canned message about removing a drive but I have
never paid attention to that, I know when something is being written to
it.

Glenn





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 10:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question



You are saying it will cause problems if you remove the drive while NVDA is
running. I see no reason why problems should be encountered if you unload
it first, as discussed in my previous message.



As I understood the question, the drive was not trying to be removed while
NVDA was running. NVDA was unloaded, then safely remove hardware was
attempted but it always shows the drive shouldn't be removed. This is
because a file remains in use by Windows even if NVDA is removed. That
doesn't mean any information is being sent to the drive except, perhaps,
under the condition I specified.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Damien Garwood

Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:50 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question



Hi James,
If you are running NVDA from the thumb drive, then disconnecting it
while it is running will cause problems for NVDA, and you will get no
feedback. So yes, closing down the machine and then disconnecting your
drive is, in my opinion, the best course of action.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 22/07/2018 03:35 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Ah, yes, that toggle fixed the problem.
And, I discovered a tutorial in the NVDA help menu. So, that problem
is also fixed.
I sure wish I had installed NVDA a long time ago.
Gene, I am going to ask you or, anyone another question.
I put NVDA Portible on a thumb drive. I discovered that I can not do a
safe disconnect because Winndows 7 says that the files are still in use.
So, I just powered down the box and disconnected that way. Is this
normal? Orr, is there a way around this?
Gene, thanks,
James B
*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:12 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
Try NVDA key, either insert by default, f4. You should hear either speak
command keys on or speak command keys off. It's a toggle. If off, you
shouldn't hear the announcement.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@att.net>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:34 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Introduction, and a question
Hi all,
I am James Bentley from East Texas.
I recently installed NVDA out of curiosity and for a backup to Jaws.
I am extremely impressed with NVDA. Its small, efficient, and
surprisingly powerful. Especially since it is free of charge. I
predict it will continue to grow and improve at a rapid rate.
May I start with 2 quick questions?
Is there a tutorial available?
And, Is it possible to stop NVDA from saying, arrow up or arrow down
while I am arrowing up and down through a web page?
Many thanks. And, I’m glad to be here.
James B

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