Re: NVDA + F5 hotkey doing an actual document reload


do you mean that nvda does not say server not found or no connection
available in this case?

On 8/15/18, Gene <> wrote:
I just tested the command by disconnecting from the Internet before issuing
it. it refreshed the buffer even when disconnected from the Internet so it
works as initially described. It just refreshes the buffer without
reloading the page.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA + F5 hotkey doing an actual document reload

Ok, I actually now just tested the NVDA + F5 keystroke on one of my own
webpages, where I am making changes to layout/content dynamically, and,
it did seem to indeed repopulate the virtual buffer, and, not try reload
the page, since, yes, inbetween having loaded the page, and having
invoked content changes, I then disconnected from the internet, before
hitting that keystroke, and, NVDA key + F5 didn't try reload the page
normally, but, just seemed to be rescanning the page contents/document
object model, and, I tried this with both firefox and chrome, so, not
sure why it seems to, at times operate slightly differently - will need
to make notes the next time I come across something like this, to make
sure it's not just my own imagination...<smile>

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
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On 8/14/2018 5:49 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I suggest you ask this question as an issue on github. I to was under
the same impression as you.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA + F5 hotkey doing an actual document reload

Problem with standard F5 keystroke is that almost every single browser
will then just reload the page from scratch, losing all DHTML content

I do also know that NVDA key + number row 5 is meant to turn on
reporting of dynamic content changes, but, it won't always work, partly
since, at times, the webpages document-object-model will be rather

Either way, I had just thought/assumed that it was offering/implementing
a form of virtual page buffer refresh, but anyway - will play around
with other keystrokes, alt+tabbing away from window, and back to it,
etc. etc.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 8/14/2018 1:59 PM, Gene wrote:
I believe it does reload the document, because, as I recall, I think
it takes too long than to just refresh the buffer. If so, it is doing
the same thing as just f5. Of course, if you reload the document, you
are reloading the buffer. But try turning browse mode off and then on
with NVDA key space. This may just refresh the buffer.
If NVDA key f5 is explained in the manual, I don't know where. It
isn't discussed in the browse mode section. It is probably mentioned
in the quick reference guide, but it may well not clarify what it does.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Jacob Kruger <>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2018 5:45 AM
*To:* <>
*Subject:* [nvda] NVDA + F5 hotkey doing an actual document reload

This is something I think has been going on across a few versions of
NVDA now, and, just wanted to confirm that it's not me that's confused.

I am currently making use of Version: alpha-15854,a8bda064, FWIW.

Anyway, I was under the impression that, for example, in a web browser,
the hotkey combination of NVDA + F5 should repopulate the virtual
rendition of the page contents - I do need this at times since I work
with dynamic web contents - but, it seems to, literally, just reload
page as if you'd clicked on something like the browsers own refresh
button, or as if you'd in fact told NVDA that the next keypress should
be passed directly through to the operating system?

Or am I incorrect in having thought it only repopulated a form of
virtual buffer for the webpage?


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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