yes you had to use object navigation to do it you would then
find the column you wanted use the lock mouse button go to the
place where you wanted it then unlock the mouse. It was quite
easy to do but if people were not use to it they would not go
I think you could also do it with the physical mouse do the
when the golden cursor come to the add on website then it would
let you use the arrow keys to move the mouse around and a bit
more. Even labeling i think you call it hot spots.
That would make it super easy.
later on tonight I will add in a link to the tutorial on
mozilla thunder bird to this add on. so people know it is there.
I think some of the new users are not aware they can install add
ons or where to go for extra functionality.
I just figured people knew it was there so did not add it into
the tutorial but it looks as though people are unaware.
On 8/29/2018 3:09 AM, Kwork wrote:
That would be a reason I avoided it for so many years. I
remember reading about this being a problem natively before.
While I figured out how to show and hide columns using object
navigation, I still can't figure out how to re-order them
without the add-on. Probably some sort of drag and drop which
I've never really gotten NVDA to do properly. JAWS has always
had the edge there.
As I didn't want to use web mail, though GMail's basic html
is quite accessible, and since I couldn't even get NVDA to
read the setup screen for Microsoft's own mail program, I
decided to fight with Thunderbird instead, at least for now.
My very favorite mail client I ever used was Windows Vista's
version of Windows Mail, the only thing not great being that
you couldn't have more than one identity. Outlook Express was
my second favorite though large identities could get corrupt
at times, losing all messages in the process, something
Windows Mail on Vista solved by having each message be its own
file rather than the full identity be one large file. A dream
program for me would have been Vista's Windows Mail, but with
identities added, but with the messages still being one to a
file rather than the whole identity.
I tried Windows Live, but it was moving very slow on this
machine, even the earlier installer Brian had saved.
On 8/28/2018 7:46 AM, Gene wrote:
While Thunderbird is
generally accessible, I consider this ability not being
accessible in the program to be a significant failure to
make the program accessible. If the designers are going
to follow an eccentric layout for who knows why, they have
an obligation to make changing it accessible, especially
since this format change affects blind screen-reader users
That's one reason I refuse to
use the program. I consider this to be a serious enough
disregarding of accessibility that I refuse to use it
unless I really need to. I know there are ways around the
problem but this really leaves a bad taste in my mouth and
the problem has been around for years, as long as I've
casually followed the program, which has been perhaps
eight years or more.
The designers must have
gotten complaints over the years, probably a lot of them.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 and email
Same here, Travis. That's one of my biggest pet peeves about
Thunderbird, the fact that it displays the subject first
instead of the sender's name. So far, I haven't been able to
find a way to fix this, either. That's one reason why I tried
the mail app, which does display messages with the sender
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