Re: Windows 10 1803 and file explorer sluggishness


Yeah--I was gonna suggest that. :).

On 9/2/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Hmm, maybe it's time to remember and take my own advice that I gave
Jackie the other day that helped resolve her Firefox selection problem.
I didn't think of add-ons

Whether it works, what Gene advised is working better than how I was
doing things. It, just, gets, old, when, each, file, and, folder, name,
has, an, extra, pause, inserted, before, each.


On 9/2/2018 12:57 PM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:


Firstly, no, JAWS doesn’t suffer from the same problem.

Secondly, though,I don’t find this slowness either with NVDA – I don’t
use NVDA constantly so maybe it is only after it has been running for
a long time that the problem arises.  However, I’ve just spent 15
minutes going through my various drives and folders with absolutely no
slow down at all – one of the folders had in excess of 1,000
subfolders and it was as quick as one which only had one or two in it!

The only other thing I can think of is that, possibly, it may be an
add-on which is causing this?  The reason I put this out is that I
have very, very few add-ons installed!

Good luck with identifying where the problem is and on fixing it.

Oh yes, and I’m using the latest version of Windows 10 64-bit along
with the latest stable version of NVDA.


Richard Bartholomew

*From:* <> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* 02 September 2018 20:25
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 1803 and file explorer sluggishness

Others who use Windows 10 will telll you more and we will see if my
memory is correct.  As I recall, this is the result of UIA, a system
used much more in Windows 10 to communicate with screen-readers.  I
don't think you can do anything about it, as I recall what I've seen
discussed here, though I may have found a partial work around.  I
don't use Windows 10 so you can see.  I'll explain it after the rest
of my general comments.  I wonder if JAWS has the same problem.
Others who know more technically may comment on whether this is a
Microsoft problem or if it will take both Microsoft and NVDA
developers to solve it.

Try this:

I'm giving desktop layout commands:

Move into the folder where you want to find a file.  Instead of down
arrowing, move through each item as though it were its own object,
which it is.  The command to move by object down the screen is numpad
insert numpad 6.  Keep holding insert and pressing six to move through
the list. To move back, the command is numpad insert numpad 4.  When
you want to open something, it will not be selected.  use the command
numpad insert numpad enter.  Execute the command twice, once to select
the item, once to open it. You are doing what a mouse user does when
he/she double clicks an item.  You aren't using a mouse but you are
first selecting, then taking an action, in this case opening it, which
is the same sequence a mouse user follows.


----- Original Message -----

*From:*Kwork <mailto:istherelife@...>

*Sent:*Sunday, September 02, 2018 1:02 PM

*To:* <>

*Subject:*[nvda] Windows 10 1803 and file explorer sluggishness

Since asking this on the Windows 10 list, it was also suggested that I
ask more NVDA users here, so am copying below the message I sent to the
other list with an additional NVDA question.

First of all, I'm still getting used to the idea that File Explore now
uses ribbons rather than the menus on my former Windows 7 installation.

What's bothering me more is the sluggishness when moving around through
files and folders. There seems to be between a quarter and a half second
delay after each press of the arrow and enter keys. Same with the

First question: is there a way to toggle between folders and ribbons, or
am I stuck? I'm guessing the answer to be stuck.

Next, is there a way to speed up movement through navigating files and
folders? As far as I can tell, I have all visuals and animations turned
off. The sluggishness remains, and increases over time. Starting and
stopping the "Windows Explorer" process in Task Manager seems to make
things less slow, but still not normal for a few minutes, then things
get more and more sluggish again.

In addition, is there anything in NVDA that I can check to see if it
would help in the new sluggishness? I just miss the snappiness I had in
Windows 7.

If anyone knows what I can do, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.


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