Re: Waterfox works with NVDA
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Interesting thoughts. Thanks.toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
But of course, Firefox Quantum is not inaccessible; NVDA quite nicely got up to speed and I was even able to use version 57 with it for a time.
Not so with jAWS, where there still seem to be problems.
It is rather unfortunate about the add-ons, though.
From: email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: September 19, 2018 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Waterfox works with NVDA
The quantom engine itself is not a bad thing.
But the fact to fix security they block direct access to windows well thats debaitable.
Put it this way, 16 bit stuff especially old dos stuff trying to access the hardware directly.
There can be issues with windows because of that.
Before that, software used to get in other software's way.
The issue now though is that just about everything ie registry, standard windows controls and accessibility libs need direct access, now just about every addon author has to write their own interface.
Thats why firefox quantom is totally inaccessible.
Its a security trade off there is no solution, I understand why they do it even aplord them for doing so but its a trade off.
Waterfox will use classic addons as well as the new quantom engine and the web extention apis.
So in short we should be able to run both libraries eventually.
Sadly older addons as long as they will be available like noscript will continue but newer ones will not work but eventually waterfox will go quantom.
But will continue using classic libraries as well as the new ones.
So in theory we should be able to run most of everything.
Think of windows 10 linux or vmware or talking dosbox or something like that.
There will probably be a few limitations.
Its unknown what those are.
However this is a community developed project based on the mozilla code without all the extra mozilla addons etc.
Sadly its also indicated it can't stay in the happy place it is now because the current engine has limitations.
With thunderbird quantom, addons are just not accessible at all.
Thats fine because I never used them and I find most of the rest of the engine actually usable.
I'd like the addons to work but chances are I wouldn't be accessing them anyway.
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