Re: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

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It does not look like the cobra screen reader is realy going any more
unless there is a updated website.

the following link is about it at

I would be really surprised if they brought down the price for jaws the
price goes up with a exchange rate for others.

I think they charge like 50 nzd a month  like you are renting it and it
goes onto your disibility allowance and if it is all used up out of your

Gene nz

Gene nz

On 29/09/2018 7:20 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:
It's still around. Though it's not popular in America, Canada, but it is
popular in Germany as that is where it is made. What is very odd about this
screen reading market is that it seems to be controlled by the big blind
organisations. JFW is what I like to call the world wide screen reader as
in, it is the one that is world-wide. Everywhere you go, every institution
you go into, JAWS is there. And yet, we have all of those other screen
readers that struggle through market share and I have a feeling that the
screen reading market has been controlled. In fact, I remember a post on a
mailing list a few years ago, You could probably find it in the mailing list
archive, where somebody said that if we were to get rid of the government
sponsorship that we would probably see more competition between JAWS,
Supernova, NVDA, System Access, and, when it was alive back then,
Window-Eyes, in those institutions, and the guy said if we successfully got
rid of the government sponsorship then JAWS would have to play by the same
rules as everybody else, and he said what could happen is somebody in a low
income bracket would purchase something like SA, or use the free NVDA,
someone in a mid-income bracket might choose Supernova, and someone who was
on a high income bracket would go for JAWS, and, Window-Eyes, as, this was
2011 when that message was posted on the mailing list. I do hope that NVDA
will get into big government institutions, as right now, I am a little
saddened at FS right now. Basically, they are going to a subscription base
model for authorisation, in JAWS 2019. The way it is going to work, is in
the US, you will be able to purchase a home annual licence, but you will
have to keep renewing your subscription to keep JAWS authorised. Eventually,
all of the SMA's etc. will be in the portal, and everything will be
subscription baste for jfw. And I believe the price will be $60 per year.
-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Buddy
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A friend needs info on screen readers history for her

What about Cobra? That seems to have been the successor, after a while, to
ScreenPower. No clue what its eventual fate was, or if it still exists.

Then there were some, ahh, interesting offerings, like Thunder. And there
was this other one whose name I forget. Never got very far either of them.
On Sep 28, 2018, at 5:04 PM, ely.r@... wrote:

Lost this thread, but now found it, wanted to send this site to you and
Before Screen Readers, There had to be readers!
The site below is an auditory history of early speech synthesizers. Each
sample has a brief description of who where and when it was developed.
Obviously screen readers needed intelligible voices to be of any worth. It
is incredible to see how far the technology developed and what approaches
were used along the way.
Have fun!
n 9/28> And just to add to this, Window Bridge, was the first screen
reader to
ever come out for windows. It came out around June of 1992. In the
beginning, their were about 10 windows products, which today, has been
reduced today.
The 10 windows products that you saw in the market were:
Window Bridge
Syntha Voice, released on June 1992. Now gone.
Out Spoken for the mac and windows, Berkley systems, Alva access
group, released in 1994, now gone.

Dolphin Hal, now called Supernova

Screen power, Telussensory, now gone.
Artic Winvision, also gone.
ASAW, also gone.
Released January 20, 1995 First developed for DOS in 1989. Created by
Henter-Joyce, which became Freedom Scientific in 2000, which became
VFO-group in 2015.
Window-Eyes, now gone as of May 15, 2017.
Release date: October 16, 1995, until May 15, 2017.
Started out as Vocal-Eyes for DOS on February 15, 1990, Which was a
year before I was born on that same day. created by GW Micro.
Vocal-Eyes was the top DOS screen reader. Then, in 1995, GW Micro
released Window-Eyes on Monday, October 16, 1995. On January 14, GW
Micro and Microsoft released a version of Window-Eyes free with
office. This version worked with Office
2010 or up, and it came with two voices. Allowed you to purchase
DecTalk, Eloquence, Vocalizer, etc. Then, on May 1, GW Micro and AI
Squared merged.
Then, on June 14, AI was acquired by VFO.

System Access:
Released date: 2005.
Release date: April 2006.
Developer: NV Access
I hope these notes help your friend with the history. Thanks, Sky.
-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
Travis Siegel
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers
history for her thesis

On 9/26/2018 12:24 PM, Mallard wrote:
The first screen reader I ever used was Window Bridge, which I really
loved. Pity nobody took it up after David passed out so suddenly...
Actually, I tried. I bought the rights to the windowbridge source
code, but UPS lost the pc as it was being shipped from Canada to me
here in the U.S. His brother did send me cds with as much material as
he could find before sending the computer, but unfortunately, since he
wasn't a programmer, he missed some vital libraries required for the
proper compile of windowbridge, and since the ocmputer was lost, I was
never able to do anything with it. Quite a shame really, since I
personally thought it was an excellent product, and was very happy to
have gotten the rights to it.

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