Re: Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...>

windows 10 is the largest tested software in the history of computers
with a large number of insiders at least 20 million insiders.
and no software is perfect even windows 7 or windows 8 is not perfect
but all i can say is that they have at least admited the bug and are fixing it.

On 10/6/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
This article deals with business users of Windows 10 but my guess is that
many of the issues, at least in terms of stability and bugs in new full
upgrades, refer to individual consumers as well.

And, you will see that there is an actual term, I believe Microsoft uses
and promotes it, "Windows As A Service." I strongly maintain that Windows
is an operating system before it is a service and my view is that Microsoft
has this backwards in Windows 10.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

I doubt admitting bugs is a new culture at all. These releases are released
six months apart. Either too many changes are made atoo close to the time
of release to test for properly, or there is an insufficient testing base.
If two full upgrades a year are too much to test properly, then only havbe
one. Windows users, I think, would much rather have properly tested
releases without the problems, some of which cripple the systems of many
users, when many of these releases are made.

Windows is releasing versions too quickly, it is my guess because the
emphasis has changed from stability to cramming new features into Windows to
entice people to use more services Microsoft makes money from. Why did
Microsoft give Windows 10 away for a year? Actually, they aggressively
badgered Windows users to upgrade. They didn't do so for humanitarian
reasons. They did so because Windows is far more a means of promoting
Microsoft services than it used to be.

I suspect the problem is both that new services are added too quickly to be
tested properly and that the sample for testing in the insider program is
too limited.

----- Original Message -----

From: Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Software is never perfect, and I, for one, prefer this new culture of
admitting bugs. I don't have enough information and experience in
developing software to judge whether or not their testing procedures
are adequate, which is why I choose not to judge.
Am Sa., 6. Okt. 2018 um 12:11 Uhr schrieb Gene <gsasner@...>:

Maybe these full updates of Windows, released every six months, and which
are, in effect, new full versions of Windows, aren't sufficiently tested
before release. How many update cycles have wee seen where there are
major problems with the release? Maybe the insiders program isn't large
enough or maybe no or insufficient effort is made to make sure those
testing cover a wide enough variety of different brands and models of

----- Original Message -----
From: Austin Pinto
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 2:40 AM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Please wait for some days the update is withdrawn due to a major bug

On Sat, Oct 6, 2018, 1:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer
<godfearer@...> wrote:

I would suggest using the mediaCreator that Microsoft offers on their web
site. It is a lot faster than the update assistant.Normally it is used
for creating a useable flashdrive to boot and install from but it works
just as well when run from your download folder. also, if you find
yourself in need of doing a clean install of windows this is the tool to
use. i have done a clean install with no sighted help.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

Hi, Abbie,

I didn't have that problem when I was upgrading. I don't understand what
could be happening.


From: [] On Behalf Of Abbie
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition

What about files being lost? Someone on another forum said all his files
in his documents folder disappeared after he upgraded. I know it's a good
idea to back things up before upgrading, but I'm wondering if anyone else
had this experience after upgrading.
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