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Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Gene,


Honestly, there seems to be more of this occurring in the last decade or so going as far back as windows Vista.  Windows 7 was the fix for that debacle. I've yet to read this article, and much thanks for the post my friend.  I am inclined to agree with the premise that it is just plain carelessness and negligence on somebody's part there.   The insider updates come almost too frequently for me to keep up with and test, and with other things on the plate right now I've dropped messing around with it and maybe its not the worst move I've made on my part.  I can't stress it enough to everyone just how important it is to back everything up.  For drives can hit the skids on you, and as Microsoft has now shown and unfortunately proven to us that files can disappear and be gone without a trace.


Tony


On 10/9/2018 7:31 AM, Gene wrote:

It may be worse than I thought.  it may be just plain neglegence. 
 
In my past writings on this subject, I've assumed that the problem in the latest major update was caused by defects in the insider program in identifying problems and the pressure of too frequent updates.  This comment in an article on the Kim Komando site raises the very real possibility that its just plain carelessness and neglegence.  This may become a major story and may result in major changes in how Microsoft handles updates. 
 
And this problem is yet another reminder to back up everything you don't want to lose.  If you don't, sooner or later, you'll lose a lot or all of your files because something is going to happen. 
 
https://www.komando.com/happening-now/495846/windows-update-halted-by-microsoft-for-major-problems
Perhaps more troubling are the reports stating that the bug existed even on the Windows Insider preview versions of the update. Isn't this precisely the thing beta testing is for?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

But in the old days, Windows didn't get a full upgrade every six months.  Service packs were infrequent--perhaps two or three or four years apart.  Windows 7 only had one.  Perhaps Microsoft should look through its records of who had problems with Windows 10 upgrades through Windows 10's history.  Perhaps they can identify certain combinations of hardware and software that are prone to problems.  They then can actively attempt to recruit members of the Insider program who run such combinations.  It appears the Insider program is not working as expected. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Windows rollout problems have been with us since the last millennium.  Remember Windows 98, it crashed, right there, on stage with  Bill Gates at the helm.

This just seems to be part of windows reality.  It seems we must live with it or  leave it.  There is a choice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: October-08-18 9:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

 

What is wrong with the insider program that this problem wasn't known before the rollout?  Are there too few people in the program?  Should there be more attention to trying to get more users who use Windows in different ways and on more varied equipment?  Microsoft is developing a reputation for bad rollouts, hardly helpful for the company achieving its goals of having people accept "Windows as a service." 

 

In an article I read yesterday from a reliable source, it was stated that both this major upgrade and the one before it had serious problems.  I don't recall the details now, but I recall reading about how the previous upgrade put some users machines into infinite bootup loops.  I don't recall what other problems may have been in that upgrade.  Again, what is wrong with the insider program that this wasn't caught? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 9:48 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

 

Yes Jonathan Mosen was mentioning about it this very morning. Though he says
none of his machines have had the issue. There was also so question marks
about third party anti virusses maybe blocking the back up of files when
Windows tries to move them as well.

So who is going to sue for lost data?
 The more I hear the more I'm glad I'm on windows 7, even if it won't read
dropbox dialogue boxes any more.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ballou" <cyberpro224@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues


> Howdy,
>
>
> From our win10 sister list and other reputable sources in the wires and
> colleagues from my personal network there have been loads of reports
> about people losing their data when they upgrade from windows 10 version
> 1803 to version 1809. Microsoft has put the version 1809 update back on
> the shelf until they figure out what is happening. This seems to be
> happening to folks who are signed into one drive while they run the
> upgrade. Systems that are not signed into one drive appear not to have
> the issue. You can read more of this here.
>
>
> https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/6/17944966/microsoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-documents-deleted-issues-windows-update-paused
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>



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