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It is definitely hard to put yourself in somebody elses shoes and if you like, see the wood for the trees without spending a fair amount of time with that person and that is sadly not always possible in these busy days. Its hard also to teach organised thinking. Many people are pretty random and do not look at what they need to do with an overview so they can work to a logical method that shows progress in the learning enough to not lose confidence that they can do it. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Switching from Desktop to Laptop Keyboard Hi,
Most commands that uses Numpad are shifted to main keyboard area on laptop layout. In a way, the laptop layo8ut commands makes slightly more sense (especially object navigation commands, but that's a bit ahead of the story at the moment).
Speaking of commands, tasks and what not: if I'm not mistaken, based on conversations we had so far, I think you're having a conflict between an important task or two at hand and suddenly being thrusted into a new screen reader world. Am I correct? If yes, I advise focusing more on the task at hand and how to accomplish it using concepts and commands more than keyboard layout.
To others: some of you might say that it is important to teach people how to use screen readers and commands. I'd argue that, sometimes it is better to let people focus on their work more than the technology that gives them access to information on screen. For this reason, a screen reader expert (or a prospective one) must not only become a teacher, but also a counsellor willing to listen, diagnose, and offer pragmatic solutions that fits the context at hand. Many expert certification programs (including the one offered by NV Access) tells you how things work and what to do for given situations (or simulations), but they won't teach you how to become a good listener and diagnosing issues beyond the technology they're teaching; becoming a good listener and able to recognize, diagnose, and offer solutions and advice for issues beyond NVDA takes time to master (and even if we try to teach uniformity, people have different worldviews within their minds and souls).
I may need to devote an entire thread regarding what it truly means to be an NVDA expert and influential add-on developer.
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rechell Schwartz via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 8:01 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Switching from Desktop to Laptop Keyboard
Hello,
I have been using NVDA on a laptop that is connected to an external keyboard.
I need to temporarily travel, and will need to use the native laptop keyboard.
Am I need to go through a complete learning curve again ( I see from the user's guide that many of the commands are different) or is there nay workaround or tips on this?
Thanks,
Rechell Schwartz
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