Re: determining the color of a text in Excel with NVDA
Exactly, thanks for putting it so concisely.toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On Mon, 10/22/18, Dale Leavens <dleavens@...> wrote:
Perhaps the answer is to have NVDA announce colour change when encountered. I am not a fan of software be it screen reader technology in making assumptions about meaning.
So much of my software makes assumptions about things like abbreviations speaking most two letter combinations as American state names. SC cannot appear without being spoken as South Carolina for example and D r. Is pronounced as drive. I worked for decades in health care with endless pronounceaations of drive jones or drive Simpson etc. Certain four letter words get substitutions. How juvenile and how patronizing.
While red may in most contexts refer to negative numbers it might also simply represent a highlight to draw the reader’s attention in another context.
On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:21 PM, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
I cannot believe, seriously, that anyone who deals with Excel spreadsheets on a regular basis that have as their primary purpose doing numeric calculations could ever propose that having a screen reader read just what's on view for a numeric cell, when what's on view would be interpreted by a sighted user in one and only one way, and a way that is completely the opposite of what's on display if the conventional use of "red" for negative is intentionally ignored.
The numeric value of a numeric cell is essential if the data is to have any meaning that everyone, blind or sighted, will interpret correctly. Since the blind cannot possibly interpret color in the same way as a sighted person would for red values in a spreadsheet, what's essential is that they are clearly given the actual information that the color represents to a sighted user. It's just that simple.
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
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