Re: espeak issue fixed

Sharni-Lee Ward

Brian, try listening to the Linda voice. I use Linda, as up until this
update, she was the only female voice I could stand, and I'm so used to
her that I can't handle any other voice for long periods, even with this
issue. Listen to words like "updated" and "message" and "notice" for the
problem I'm having. I use the default English voice and my inflection's
at 100%, if that helps any.

I confess I was so desperate to get rid of the problem that I didn't
think before acting. I'm still extremely wary of doing this again, but
if a more concrete solution is provided, I'll test it out on a portable
copy as has been recommended.

On 5/06/2016 5:53 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Well, often its a very good idea before any kind of fiddling like this
to create a portable version from it as it is in a folder you can get
to easily. That way, you can in fact get back quite easily I find.
This Espeak issue is weird as nobody I know who uses it here has any
issues. If this is just perhaps in one language other than UK English
this would I imagine point to an eror in the data.
As for why it screwed up, many reasons for this one. It only needs one
file to not copy or there to be other errors, and the engine will just
give up. Often another synth will work though.
I guess its a bit like gambling. Only gamble if you can afford to lose
your money/data in this case.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
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Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak issue fixed

Well I did do this and this has fixed my nvda I am not sure why yours
didn't fix.

On 5/06/2016 12:44 a.m., Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

I just did this and succeeded in screwing up my copy of NVDA. I
copied in the "Espeak Data" folder as was suggested, and suddenly
everything NVDA was saying was incomprehensible to me. I tried to
undo what I'd done. All I ended up with was silence. Horrible,
horrible, unbroken silence. With sighted help, I did a system
restore, which accomplished nothing, then had to resort to using a
portable copy of NVDA which I hadn't updated since 2015.2,
uninstalling NVDA from my computer, reinstalling it from the
portable copy and updating it back to 2016.2. I've probably lost a
few dictionary entries and I'm right back where I started, but I
infinitely prefer speech with a few squished syllables to no NVDA at
all. Did I mention after I tried undo NVDA wouldn't even start,
probably because it's default synth had been stuffed around with? Oh
yeah, it did that.

I am never, ever messing with my screen readers data files again.

On 4/06/2016 7:21 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi all.
Ok here is a solution to the espeak issue.
This will go on the skype group as well
Anyway, testing looks as if its the espeakdata itself either the
phonem or the actual synth data.
What I did.
While I was not able to find previous releases of 2016-2015 in
compiled form I was able to find via sourceforge 2014.4 and this had
espeak in it.
I coppied over the espeakdata folder over itself in nvda program
While this will have to be done for just about every coppy it does
mean that while espeak will remain the new ng with the voice as it
is, the squished crap is at least back to normal.
I have not tried to override the espeak dll but the link has 2
folders synthdrivers which has the old espeak state from 2014.4 and
the new ng dataset.
Anyway, it looks like its the data files rather than the driver itself.
So if we can figure out what the hell is going on with this, then it
may be easier to fix than we first thought.
Now I didn't replace the driver because although it has some harsh
elements I wanted to see what this would do.
Its fixed it such that the mangled squished elements are gone.
This file will remain up until at least we can fix it.
Aniother way is to download the latest old espeak sapi and run it I
have yet to see compiled ng binaries for windows sapi, etc so till
we see that and as long as sourceforge keeps the depricated espeak
project up we will be ok.
To the devs and such trying to solve this especially if you have
access to the espeak list which I have no desire to handle and since
this may happen on multiple platforms it seems to be the database
itself or something in the database causing the trouble currently
I am unsure about what part of the database is naff though, this
will require some other beepstard to troubleshoot.
I'd like to but I have never fiddled with this and pluss I am not
that interested.
For all users though this is one way out of the current issue for now.
The buty of this is as long as we replace the data we can still use
the latest engine.
I will keep other units the same however as it is not needed that we
fiddle with our units like this but at least for my own personal it
will work.

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