Re: FireFox Advice from Intopia Article

John Isige

Well, here's some up-to-date information instead then. I'm using Firefox
63.0.1 64-bit, NVDA 2018.3.2, Windows Windows 18.03 64-bit, and it works
fine. Even the weird Youtube pauses have pretty much stopped happening.
The only complaint is that some addons, like Noscript, seem to fluctuate
in terms of accessibility, but I'd guess that's more the addons than
Firefox, since before I uninstalled Noscript, it wasn't even showing up
in the right click menu.

I don't seem to have any issues from uninstalling Noscript in terms of
security, and indeed Chrome doesn't have something like Noscript that I
know of, certainly not by default anyway, and nobody's urging people to
add that to Chrome immediately. So I guess it's up to everybody to
decide what they want for security, but for me it's been a few months
with Noscript either disabled or uninstalled, and things seem to be fine.

I won't go so far as to say everything's fixed or anything dumb like
that, especially since there's a lot of stuff I don't use in terms of
addons and such, e.g. I don't get all freaked out that I don't have
download noises, but I'd say that article's absolutely correct for the
majority of users. You can fire up Firefox and pretty much have the
experience you were sued to before Quantum happened. It's possible there
are some edge case issues, around addons for instance, but I'd say by
and large, it's back and working as well as ever, if not better.

On 11/14/2018 15:29, Gene wrote:
In dealing with computers and related matters, six months may be a
very long time.  Anything you are relying on that is from June of this
year can't be relied on if it is discussing such matters.  Product
reviews and descriptions of programs will be fine to rely on if the
magazine is usually reliable and no significant updates or changes
have been made.  But matters like this, where there is a known access
problem and where screen-reader designers and Mozilla are working on
the problem, information that old can't be relied on.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Russell <mailto:david.sonofhashem@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:40 PM
*To:* nvda <>
*Subject:* [nvda] FireFox Advice from Intopia Article

Hello Group,

There is a newsletter produced in Australia that comes out a few times
per year called Intopia. I signed up for it around the time Mozilla
came out with Quantum and screen reader users then were advised to
hold off. Here is their take on things as of June 2018.
If, for some reason you can’t upgrade:
• Both Mozilla and Freedom Scientific agree that users of JAWS 17 with
Firefox 57 and higher are likely to get less than satisfactory
• Users of JAWS 18 with Firefox 57-59 should get reasonable results,
but may encounter some issues.
• The Firefox ESR workaround will not apply for much longer – it is
due to switch to Quantum in September.
• NVDA updates are free and easy to implement individually, but some
people may deliberately be using an older version, for example because
their computer uses an older operating system like Windows Vista, XP
or Windows 7 without Service Pack 1. At this stage, it’s unclear how
well the older NVDA might work with Firefox Quantum browsers.
The bottom line, then, is to upgrade your screen reader to the latest
version and Firefox to its latest version, and things should work as
you expect them to.
If we get further significant information on this issue, we’ll be sure
to bring it to your attention.
My Comment: I would need to buy a Windows 10 machine. Too bad I didn't
take the freebie when offered by the Microsoft Disability Desk a
couple years ago.

David Russell
david.sonofhashem@... <mailto:david.sonofhashem@...>

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