Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

John Isige

That's not really true though. Take the IPA 'j', that has the sound of a
'y' at the beginning of words in English, like 'young'. Obviously I
picked an easy one that you can represent with the normal Latin
alphabet. But you basically go "this character here means what we call a
lateral spirant, which is this noise", in case anybody's wondering
that's the so-called double-l in Welsh, among other languages, e.g.
Navajo. So yes, it was developed by sighted people. But there's nothing
particularly sighted about it. I could just say 'cdj' represents the
final sound in the English word 'edge'. Put another way, everybody has
to learn it. There's nothing about sight that makes you look at an 's'
with a mark under it and immediately go "ah yes, that's the 'sh' sound,
as in English 'ship"! You learn that when you learn the IPA. Now, maybe
it's harder because nobody bothered to name the IPA characters. But
assuming for the moment that they all have some sort of name attached to
them, all you need to know is that currently unannounced character foo
means noise bar, and of course you need character foo to be announced as
character foo.

On 11/27/2018 8:32, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:

It shouldn’t be hard to do.

Well, and not for the purpose of being nasty or contrary, nothing
could be further from the truth.

This is a particular instance where no matter what the accessibility
workaround it is taking a medium meant to be accessed by sight, really
only accessed by sight, that is a transcription of sound.  It is
particularly and peculiarly unsuited to any methods currently known
and the only thing I can think of would be if one could get a
synthesizer to read the IPA graphemes as phonemes, one-by-one, and
even that doesn't come close to connected speech.

I have said, on many occasions, that sometimes there is no substitute
for sight and that all accessibility is a workaround which imposes
specific limitations not posed by media being "consumed" in the
sensory modality for which it was explicitly designed.


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