Re: Browse mode and focus


I may Have misunderstood what you want to do and I may not have the technical knowledge to fully understand what you want changed.  Are you talking about being able to move through a web page and have browse mode just show you the page, as though you had copied it into something like Notepad?  In that case, you would move, but nothing would ever be triggered on the page as you move.  But you seem to be discussing this related to a feature that allows a person to see where the blind person is on the page.  If so, why are you assuming they are related?  Isn't there already a setting to turn off this feature, used by sighted instructors or others working with a blind person?
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browse mode and focus

I suspect that the JAWS cursor may see the web page text when NVDA review doesn't. 
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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browse mode and focus

Probably not, but if you can explain a little more clearly when you need to
have it as you describe then we might be a bit wiser. Remember not everyone
has Jaws or uses all if its features, so we may learn something here.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@...>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browse mode and focus

> Hello Marcio,
> I could only find checkboxes dealing with the conditions for
> automatically switching to focus mode, but nothing related to focus
> changes. Those are completely different concepts. Are you sure we are
> on the same page?
> Best,
> Felix
> Am Fr., 21. Dez. 2018 um 09:45 Uhr schrieb marcio via Groups.Io
> <marcinhorj21@...>:
>> Hello,
>> You can configure it through the Settings, which can be found at the NVDA
>> Menu (NVDA+N).
>> Search for browse mode, then uncheck the boxes on automatic change or
>> something like that. I don't know how it should appear because I'm not
>> using NVDA in English, but I hope it can help you somehow.
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>> Em 21/12/2018 05:53, Felix G. escreveu:
>> Hello list,
>> I'd like to ask how to keep focus from following the browse mode
>> cursor. While this behavior may often be desirable, there are many
>> instances in which it unnecessarily slows down the browsing experience
>> as NVDA needs to constantly keep track of focus events, deciding
>> whether or not they are related to browse mode cursor movements. With
>> unfortunate timing, NVDA sometimes fails to associate a browse mode
>> cursor action with its corresponding focus event and bounces back a
>> few lines or switches to forms mode because it thinks focus has
>> changed asynchronously on behalf of the website rather than the user.
>> The sighted world analogy of moving the browse mode cursor is simply
>> reading, which should not be associated with so many events in the
>> browser.
>> If anyone would like to try out how the other behavior, as also seen
>> in JAWS, would feel in terms of speed: Go to a complex website and
>> then navigate in browse mode, but not using the standard arrow keys
>> but instead the review cursor (numpad 7 and numpad 9).
>> All the best,
>> Felix

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