Re: How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor
Adriani Botez
The big advantage of the add-on are the unified keyboard commands. The Desktop and laptop keyboard layout approach used in NVDA is in my view outdated and actually not very user friendly.
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Best Adriani -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Adriani Botez via Groups.Io Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2018 19:53 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor Hi, well, the add-on simplifies object navigation for the normal user. I thought the tutorial was intended to address the normal users incl. beginners. But yes, an advanced user tutorial would ofcourse include also the principles of object hierarchy and the difference between simple and detailed object hierarchy. I don't know if this is understandable for beginners. We must bare in mind that object navigation principles can be very complex and in some cases could overwelm users. I would try to explain it as simple as possible without much developping details. Maybe two or three practical examples would bring more benefits for users than the theoretical principles behind it. But this is only my opinion. In a second tutorial theoretical principles could be addressed, if people want it. Best Adriani -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Joseph Lee Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2018 19:46 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor Hi, I need evidence to suggest that ObjPad add-on makes object navigation much better. Besides, I think it would be helpful to get a high level overview of what object navigation is and how it works before talking about the add-on (what if some people do not wish to use the add-on). Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adriani Botez Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 10:39 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor Hey Joseph, maybe you consider doing the tutorial with objpad and structure it along that addon. I think for most users objpad makes object navigation much easier. The object navigation as it is now implemented in NVDA is actually too less user friendly. Especially if you have parent objects with lots of siplings as it is in a browser for example. Best Adriani -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Joseph Lee Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2018 19:22 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor Hi, The tutorial I'll be writing will be based on concepts described in the user guide, along with what I've learned over the years as an NVDA user and developer. Cheers, Jsoeph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 10:11 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor Hi Joseph, I think a tutorial on object navigation would be helpful when you have time. Many on this list would appreciate it. Have a merry Christmas. Merry Christmas to all. Blessings Pascal -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 12:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor Hi, In order to understand how object navigation works, it is helpful to get an overview of how things are laid out on screen. Effectively, when you use this mode, you're navigating in and out of various controls on screen (hierarchy, if you will). I'll wait for more requests before writing a slightly more thorough tutorial on object navigation (I think I did this before, but can't remember quite well at the moment due to volume of changes since than and in the midst of preparing for Christmas festivities). Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor I'd surely appreciate that. I too have a problem understanding Object navigation as I was a 18 year user of Window Eyes. Thank You. On 12/23/2018 8:58 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi, |
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