Well technically with things like cloud protection, if someone gets
infected with it first, as well as using its own datasets, it can draw
from others that have had the same malware to update its databases etc.



On 12/29/2018 7:12 PM, Gene wrote:
> Windows Defender was poorly rated for a year or two.  it is now considered to be a reasonably good program. It may be considered better than that now, I'm not sure.  it has been improving in quality over the last two or three years.
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> Gene
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> From: MAX
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:53 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.
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> I have the paid version of Malware bytes.  I also have windows defender turned on for what it’s worth.
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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 12:18 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.
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> Looks like malware on your system. Have you done any scanns with any apps you have to detect this?
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> Take care
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> On 28 Dec 2018, at 10:08, MAX wrote:
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>    Popups are set to block.
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>    Each popup begins with message from google chrome.
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>    Each one was repeated several times.
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>    From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
>    Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 10:41 PM
>    To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>    Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.
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>    In Chrome, there is a setting to block pop-ups which should be on by default. It might be helpful to access your Chrome settings just to ensure that the setting is set to blocking popups.
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>    5. Look for the Popup button or you could press insert-ctrl-F to bring up the NVDA find dialog and type the word "pop" without the quotes. Make sure that it is set to "blocked."
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>    If popups still occur could you tell us a little more about the type of pages which are appearing? Does this behavior happen when you're viewing specific sites?
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>    If the problem occurs more often than not I do think that it would be very good to perform a scan of your system to see if any malware has been detected. Which antivirus or antimalware programs do you use? For a second opinion I'd recommend installing the free version of MalwareBytes to see if it detects anything.
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>    David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
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>    On 12/27/2018 9:11 PM, Gene wrote:
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>      I seem to recall we may have discussed popups with Chrome before.  I think its adware.  I don't recall hearing about what you are discussing in Chrome in cases other than adware.
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>      If you don't want to investigate that problem, then it would be a good good idea to start using Firefox.  If you can use Internet Explorer and if it works properly on the sites you want to use, you may want to just use it for now, but over time, Internet Explorer will work with increasingly fewer sites.
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>      Gene
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>      From: MAX
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>      Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 7:56 PM
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>      To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
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>      Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.
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>      It happened just now.  When I pressed nvda key + N the menu came up.  I arrowed around the menu and speech came back on.  So there is another way to restore it.  The two programs I had running were outlook 2013 and internet explorer.  Chrome has become unusable because of the popups Which are greater in number every time I open it.
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>      From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
>      Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:10 AM
>      To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>      Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.
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>      We don't know if there is a problem with speech or if the program stops running.  You can't assume that just because speech stops, that the problem is with speech.  When this happens, run Narrator or another screen-reader.  Then try opening the NVDA menu.  Does the menu open?  If so, the problem has something to do with speech while NVDA is running.  It may be a synthesizer problem or it may be an NVDA problem.  If the menu doesn't open, then NVDA is no longer running which is an entirely different problem.
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>      Gene
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>      From: MAX
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>      Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:00 AM
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>      Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.
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>      I don't understand what you mean by sleep mode.  I turned off character speak using nvda key 2 but it didn't keep it from going into its silent mode.  It's in it right now.  I hope this message will make sense as I am not getting any beeping feedback.  Or reading of lines as I up and down arrow.
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>      From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
>      Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:32 PM
>      To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>      Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.
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>      Actually if you toggle it to sleep mode and turn off typing letters its actually able to work for you if you run long passages as long as you don't hit control
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>      On 12/26/2018 2:47 PM, MAX wrote:
>      > I got a wry smile out of the recent thread from people who wanted to
>      > keep NVDA from speaking.  It does that all the time to me although I
>      > don't want it too. I have found that if I am running two or more
>      > programs in windows
>      > 10 that at some random time after starting the second program that
>      > NVDA will go silent.  No amount of tabbing or arrowing will cure its case of
>      > laryngitis.   So far the only way I can restore its voice is to press
>      > control alt N to restart it.  Is there a quicker way to start it
>      > talking again?
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