Re: Want to upgrade computer


Gene
 

I wasn't disputing that.  I had the impression that Windows 10 doesn't use all 4GB, but a little less.  I don't think this is because of Windows 10 per se.  I think it has to do with how much memory 32gb Windows machines can address.  Regardless, the article I sent supports my position.
 
Also, though companies do stupid things at times, it would be illogical and damaging for Microsoft to release a 32 bit version of Windows 10 that runs poorly on 32bit Windows machines.  It would erode the confidence of those who upgraded and reduce goodwill toward the company. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

However see https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Windows-only-show-about-3-5-GB-of-
my-4-GB-of-RAM (linked in the list at the bottom of your article) to confirm my
opinion that a 32-bit version of Windows will only use 3Gbytes (or 3.2Gbytes,
as stated in the article).

Antony.

On Monday 14 January 2019 at 13:03:19, Gene wrote:

> This page supports my view.
> https://www.quora.com/Is-Windows-10-advisable-with-4-GB-of-RAM
> the first two answers on the page are written by people using 32bit Windows
> 10.  The second two answers are not clear responses and we don't know what
> bit version of Windows 10 they are addressing at which times or if they
> are making a proper and clear distinction in their answers.  But those who
> answered the question properly support my view.
>
> Gene
> ----- Orignal Message -----
>
> From: Gene
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:51 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer
>
>
> I doubt what you are saying is correct.  Its true that 32bit Windows is
> limited in memory access, as you say.  But at the same time, 32 bit
> versions of Windows require far less memory and I very much doubt that
> Windows 10 is much more, if at all memory intensive than Windows 7 or
> Windows 8.  Memory needs for 32bit Windows are dramatically less than for
> 64bit.  I don't know if this is true, but the limitation may make Windows
> 10 run less efficiently if a very memory intensive program is being used.
> But for typical uses, I doubt there is a problem.
>
> All of which may have no bearing on the current situation because the
> computer may be a 64 bit computer and the version of Windows that may be
> upgraded to may well be 64bit.  But for anyone who has a 32bit computer
> who is following the thread, I think this point needs further discussion.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Antony Stone
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:37 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer
>
>
> If you have a 32-bit version of Windows (no matter whether the machine's
> hardware is 32- or 64-bit) then it will not use more than 3Gbytes of RAM.
>
> This tends to give disappointing performance when running a screenreader
> alongside other applications, as well as being a waste of money for the
> unusable RAM.
>
> Antony.
>
> On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:35:38, Gene wrote:
> > Isn't there a 32 bit version of Windows 10?  What if the machine is a
> > 32bit machine?
> >
> > Also, what version of Windows is currently being run?  You may just have
> > minor annoyances when Microsoft imposes two full upgrades on you a year.
> > Microsoft may slow the schedule down but we don't know if it will, but
> > some people have more annoying problems or even serious ones after an
> > imposed Microsoft upgrade on occasion.  So my question is, why do you
> > want to upgrade?  If the reason isn't pressing, you might want to leave
> > things as they are.
> >
> > Gene
> > ----- Original message -----
> >
> > From: Antony Stone
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:22 AM
> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer
> >
> >
> > 1. We don't know what you regard as a "normal Windows 10 user".
> >
> > 2. I would recommend more than 4Gbytes of RAM, and make certain you have
> > 64- bit Windows.
> >
> > 3. See the thread on this list starting Friday 11th entitled "Minimum
> > Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications".
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Antony.
> >
> > On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:16:38, farhan israk wrote:
> > > I want to upgrade my computer. Is core i3 processor and 4gb ram enough
> > > for normal windows 10 user?

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<flopsie> yes, but this is #lbw, we don't do normal

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