I wasn't disputing that. I had the impression that Windows 10 doesn't use
all 4GB, but a little less. I don't think this is because of Windows 10
per se. I think it has to do with how much memory 32gb Windows machines
can address. Regardless, the article I sent supports my position.

Also, though companies do stupid things at times, it would be illogical and
damaging for Microsoft to release a 32 bit version of Windows 10 that runs
poorly on 32bit Windows machines. It would erode the confidence of those
who upgraded and reduce goodwill toward the company.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Antony Stone
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 6:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer


However see
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Windows-only-show-about-3-5-GB-of-
my-4-GB-of-RAM (linked in the list at the bottom of your article) to
confirm my opinion that a 32-bit version of Windows will only use 3Gbytes
(or 3.2Gbytes, as stated in the article).

Antony.

On Monday 14 January 2019 at 13:03:19, Gene wrote:

This page supports my view.
https://www.quora.com/Is-Windows-10-advisable-with-4-GB-of-RAM
the first two answers on the page are written by people using 32bit
Windows 10. The second two answers are not clear responses and we don't
know what bit version of Windows 10 they are addressing at which times
or if they are making a proper and clear distinction in their answers.
But those who answered the question properly support my view.

Gene
----- Orignal Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer


I doubt what you are saying is correct. Its true that 32bit Windows is
limited in memory access, as you say. But at the same time, 32 bit
versions of Windows require far less memory and I very much doubt that
Windows 10 is much more, if at all memory intensive than Windows 7 or
Windows 8. Memory needs for 32bit Windows are dramatically less than for
64bit. I don't know if this is true, but the limitation may make Windows
10 run less efficiently if a very memory intensive program is being used.
But for typical uses, I doubt there is a problem.

All of which may have no bearing on the current situation because the
computer may be a 64 bit computer and the version of Windows that may be
upgraded to may well be 64bit. But for anyone who has a 32bit computer
who is following the thread, I think this point needs further discussion.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Antony Stone
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer


If you have a 32-bit version of Windows (no matter whether the machine's
hardware is 32- or 64-bit) then it will not use more than 3Gbytes of RAM.

This tends to give disappointing performance when running a screenreader
alongside other applications, as well as being a waste of money for the
unusable RAM.

Antony.

On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:35:38, Gene wrote:

Isn't there a 32 bit version of Windows 10? What if the machine is a
32bit machine?

Also, what version of Windows is currently being run? You may just
have minor annoyances when Microsoft imposes two full upgrades on you
a year. Microsoft may slow the schedule down but we don't know if it
will, but some people have more annoying problems or even serious ones
after an imposed Microsoft upgrade on occasion. So my question is,
why do you want to upgrade? If the reason isn't pressing, you might
want to leave things as they are.

Gene
----- Original message -----

From: Antony Stone
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer


1. We don't know what you regard as a "normal Windows 10 user".

2. I would recommend more than 4Gbytes of RAM, and make certain you
have 64- bit Windows.

3. See the thread on this list starting Friday 11th entitled "Minimum
Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications".

Regards,


Antony.

On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:16:38, farhan israk wrote:

I want to upgrade my computer. Is core i3 processor and 4gb ram
enough for normal windows 10 user?