Re: Want to upgrade computer


JM Casey
 

Wow, what a drag that is. Yeah…

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: January 15, 2019 4:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

No, my capture card as soon as I bought it was no longer supported by the company. They quite answering emails about it, quit selling it etc. I was and am still not a happy camper, especially now as it died during a marathon stream last week. But then elgato had not come out with anything new for about 3 years so it was time. I'm still anoyed as now I have a not so cheap paper weight. Lol!

Take care

On 15 Jan 2019, at 13:20, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

I got your point. And, after all, you're right.
Sometimes I would like things in the tech world were a little slower. They change so fast that when we see it's another product and the one we just bought is no longer working as expected.
Maybe I'm the only one with this feeling? Smile.


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Marcio
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Em 15/01/2019 18:59, JM Casey escreveu:

Forgive me if I�m just not understanding the whole context of this discussion (there seems to be a lot of it), but it still ultimately is your decision.

The problem is that as software, including the oS, moves forward, things stop being supported and no longer work as expected. It�s a sort of balancing act, getting all the programmes on our systems to work reasonably well together, in conjunction with the operating system, which is itself a very complex piece of software with many parts that run concurrently.

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But ultimately, you can keep using old software for as long as you want, although I understand that Windows 10 home for instance only offers a limited amount of control over updates; there�s probably a way to alter this in the registry even there if someone is so inclined, for some reason.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: January 15, 2019 3:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

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Well, you wrote

So does that mean hundreds of millions of people will be buying a new computer a year from now?

I was thinking you were saying something like, people buying a new computer every year who knows why.
Anyway, I don't agree with Microsoft when it comes to how they introduce their new stuff to the public. It was this way with XP and now will be with 7.
It should be our decision updating or not, but it looks like they always want to decide on their own what we have to do.
Well at least I'm already with my dear Win 10 and we are making a good job together. So it won't be a problem for me, not really.

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Em 15/01/2019 18:04, Monte Single escreveu:

No, I don�t think anybody said anything about� buying a new computer every year.� I would think that most people still using win 7 have machines that are four years or older.�

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: January-15-19 1:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

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Eventually it will� happen on one way or on� the other. But does it really mean buying a new computer every single year? I don't think so.


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Em 15/01/2019 17:15, Monte Single escreveu:

A lot of older machines will not have the right hardware to run win 10.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: January-15-19 1:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

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But what's the link between buying a new computer and updating Windows? I can't get your point here, really.


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Em 15/01/2019 17:09, Monte Single escreveu:

So does that mean hundreds of millions of people will be buying a new computer a year from now?

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: January-15-19 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

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Hi,

The official answer: January 14, 2020 )one year left).

Cheers,

Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

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It is very easy to find out.� Do a Google search for end of Windows 7 support and see what known reliable sources say.�

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Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

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I am hearing different times for the end of win 7 support;� mid jan 2020, mid 2020,� any other bids?

Thanks,

Monte

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clare Page
Sent: January-15-19 4:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

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Hi!

Actually, 32-bit software works fine on a 64-bit computer. The Windows 7 laptop I�m using right now is 64-bit, and, although some programs have 64-bit versions which I have installed, I haven�t had problems with the ones I use which are only 32-bit, and some of those are pretty old. So is my computer actually, I bought it back in 2011, but I knew I�d do a certain amount of multi-tasking with it, so I got one with 4 GB of RAM. It�s only more recently that I�ve heard of people having much more RAM than that. I�m considering upgrading my computer as well, as Windows 7 is no longer supported from mid-January 2020, so I�m reading this thread with interest, it might give me some idea of what to look for as far as specification goes when the time comes to upgrade.

Bye for now!

From Clare

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: lundi 14 janvier 2019 18:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

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Actually if you can handle it I found a speed improvement with 64 bit windows on win7 with 4gb ram.

But if you like older software I'd stay with 32 bit.

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On 15/01/2019 12:51 AM, Gene wrote:

I doubt what you are saying is correct.� Its true that 32bit Windows is limited in memory access, as you say.� But at the same time, 32 bit versions of Windows require far less memory and I very much doubt that Windows 10 is much more, if at all memory intensive than Windows 7 or Windows 8.� Memory needs for 32bit Windows are dramatically less than for 64bit.� I don't know if this is true, but the limitation may make Windows 10 run less efficiently if a very memory intensive program is being used.� But for typical uses, I doubt there is a problem.

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All of which may have no bearing on the current situation because the computer may be a 64 bit computer and the version of Windows that may be upgraded to may well be 64bit.� But for anyone who has a 32bit computer who is following the thread, I think this point needs further discussion.

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Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

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If you have a 32-bit version of Windows (no matter whether the machine's
hardware is 32- or 64-bit) then it will not use more than 3Gbytes of RAM.

This tends to give disappointing performance when running a screenreader
alongside other applications, as well as being a waste of money for the
unusable RAM.

Antony.

On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:35:38, Gene wrote:

> Isn't there a 32 bit version of Windows 10?� What if the machine is a 32bit
> machine?
>
> Also, what version of Windows is currently being run?� You may just have
> minor annoyances when Microsoft imposes two full upgrades on you a year.
> Microsoft may slow the schedule down but we don't know if it will, but
> some people have more annoying problems or even serious ones after an
> imposed Microsoft upgrade on occasion.� So my question is, why do you want
> to upgrade?� If the reason isn't pressing, you might want to leave things
> as they are.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original message -----
>
> From: Antony Stone
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:22 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer
>
>
> 1. We don't know what you regard as a "normal Windows 10 user".
>
> 2. I would recommend more than 4Gbytes of RAM, and make certain you have
> 64- bit Windows.
>
> 3. See the thread on this list starting Friday 11th entitled "Minimum Specs
> for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications".
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:16:38, farhan israk wrote:
> > I want to upgrade my computer. Is core i3 processor and 4gb ram enough
> > for normal windows 10 user?

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Normal people think "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
Engineers think "If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet".

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