Re: Want to upgrade computer

Brian K. Lingard

Dear Farhan, Anthony, Clare, Monte & List:


Everyone seems to agree Win 7 support ends in 2020; does it really matter on the exact date? Your PC will continue to work; however, it will receive no more security or other patches. If you install a good anti-virus program such as Web Root Internet Security Everywhere, you should have no virus problems, as Web Root will continue to be updated daily.


Clare, Farhan et al: If you must switch Windows then yes, especially if your PC is 2011 vintage, this year or next is a great time to go PC shopping. Your older PC has USB 1.3 or 2.0 ports, very slow by today’s standard, USB 3.1; You should install the Belarc Advisor on your PC, see what it says the CPU chip, cores & speeds are as well as memory. Gives about everything worth knowing about your PC. Download it from HTTPS://, they offer many other products, see if any are free for personal use.


What to upgrade to? I have found in owning PCs since 1983, running out of RAM rather than CPU power is the main cause of having to upgrade. In addition, being unable to use currently popular media such as 5.25 inch, HD as well as DSDD and 3.5-inch HD diskettes, then USB sticks, SD cards now good Internet connectivity, are all reasons to upgrade.


Buying Backpack® 5.25 HD and 3.5 inch HD diskette drives gave my IBM XT PC several years more working life, think it was five years.



So you do not need to further upgrade for years.


Buying a high-spec PC with the latest USB ports, large SSD, good WIFI connectivity etc. keeps your PC able to use modern programs longer

Windows. You need SSD drive if you can afford one; they are more reliable than mechanical drives. Not sure, what you consider an ordinary user. List the programs you use.

Farhan, an I3 chip is of old & slow. You want 8 GB or perhaps 16 GB RAM so you can continue upgrading windows & run newer programs, which usually want more RAM. If you want to do audio recording & editing, or work with large spreadsheets, get a fast, multi-core CPU. If you mostly web surf, word process, use small spreadsheets, you can live with an n older CPU chip.


If you want to try running Auto Cad, which is a resource hog, buy the highest spec PC you can afford. If you buy a laptop, get one with a discrete video card, this offloads the work of painting the display from the main CPU to the video card effectively this is like having a faster CPU.

If you are tired of MS and its Windows, consider running Linux or UNIX. Requires much less CPU speed, RAM etc. than Windows, is multi-tasking by nature and open source. Has a Screenreader. Has fewer virus problems than Windows.

Just a thought.

Brian K. Lingard



From: [] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: January 15, 2019 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer


It is very easy to find out.  Do a Google search for end of Windows 7 support and see what known reliable sources say. 



Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer


I am hearing different times for the end of win 7 support; mid Jan 2020, mid 2020, any other bids.




From: [] On Behalf of Clare Page
Sent: January-15-19 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer


Hi !

Actually, 32-bit software works fine on a 64-bit computer. The Windows 7 laptop I am using right now is 64-bit, and, although some programs have 64-bit versions, which I have installed, I have not had problems with the ones I use which are only 32-bit, and some of those are old. So is my computer actually, I bought it back in 2011, but I knew I’d do a certain amount of multi-tasking with it, so I got one with 4 GB of RAM. It is only more recently that I have heard of people having much more RAM than that. I am considering upgrading my computer as well, as Windows 7 is no longer supported from mid-January 2020, so I am reading this thread with interest, it might give me some idea of what to look for as far as specification goes when the time comes to upgrade.

Bye for now!

From Clare


From: [] On Behalf of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Lundy 14 janvier 2019 18:34
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer


Actuelle if You Can handle It I found a speed improvement with 64 bit Windows on win7 with 4gb ram.

But if You like polder software Id star with 32 bit.



On 15/01/2019 12:51 AM, Gene rote :

I douta watt You are sain is correct.  Itsa truie That 32bit Windows is limite in memory Access, as You Say.  But at the sème time, 32 bit versions of Windows requière far les memory and I ver Much douta That Windows 10 is Much more, if at all memory intensive thane Windows 7 ou Windows 8.  Memory nées for 32bit Windows are dramatically les than for 64bit.  I don ‘t know if This is truie, but the limitation May maker Windows 10 rune l’efficient if a ver memory intensive program is being use.  But for typical uses, I doubt There is a problem.


All of which May have no Baring on the current situation because the computer may be a 64 bit computer and the version of Windows That may be upgrade to may well be 64bit.  But for anyone who has a 32bit computer who is following the thread, I think This point needs further discussion.



Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer


If You have a 32-bit version of Windows (no matter whether the machine's
hardware is 32- or 64-bit) then It Will not use more than 3Gbytes of RAM.

This tends to give disappointing performance when running a screenreader
alongside other applications, as well as being a waste of money for the
unusable RAM.


On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:35:38, Gene wrote:

> Isn't There a 32 bit version of Windows 10?  What if the machine is a 32bit
> Machine?
> Also, what version of Windows is currently being run?  You may just have
> minor annoyances when Microsoft imposes two full upgrades on you a year.
> Microsoft may slow the schedule down but we don't know if it will, but
> some people have more annoying problems or even serious ones after an
> imposed Microsoft upgrade on occasion.  So my question is, why do you want
> to upgrade?  If the reason isn't pressing, you might want to leave things
> as they are.
> Gene
> From: Antony Stone
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:22 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer
> 1. We don't know what you regard as a "normal Windows 10 user".
> 2. I would recommend more than 4Gbytes of RAM, and make certain you have
> 64- bit Windows.
> 3. See the thread on this list starting Friday 11th entitled "Minimum Specs
> for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications".
> Regards,
> Antony.
> On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:16:38, farhan israk wrote:
> > I want to upgrade my computer. Is core i3 processor and 4gb ram enough
> > for normal windows 10 user?

Normal people think "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
Engineers think "If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet".

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