Re: Problems With NVDA


If you are using 32 bit Windows, you have plenty of RAM.  Especially if you are using XP, that is much more than is needed by most people..

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA

hi gene and all again.
whats the best memory for my system?
i turn on my laptop in the morning and use it till the midnight.
then i turn it off until tomorrow.

i only use my system for, browsing, notepad plus plus, playing audio
files with mpchc and sometimes editing files with mp3 direct cut or
converting video files in to audio.
i also had libreoffice previously and wish to install it again, but
using it is difficult specially for me who want to read and edit
Islamic books with it.
but for browsing the web, when javascript is enabled, nvda most times
is slow and even silent when i use it for example in quora websites
and other sites that require javascript.
even nvda is silent and does not work and does not say anything when i
use arrow keys, brows mode does not work and i only hear the name of
website without anything else!
i heard that i cant upgrade my cpu, but my system has 2core cpu and
2.5 gb of ram.
this is the reason that i sometimes the best version of nvda which i
use forever is 2017.1 and sometimes told 2017.2 or maybe 2016.4!
because 2017.2 has one important bug fix which i really need to
preserve my numeroussettings, but it has the issue which i mentioned
in firefox.
also, 2017.1 is very better than other version for me in using
firefox, i believe at least since 2016.1 or even maybe 2015.4!
what should i do in this case?
On 2/8/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> But again, you don't say if you have run 32bit Windows or just 64bit
> windows.  I don't think 64bit Windows 7 or higher, perhaps Vista as well,
> should be run with less than 4GB.  But 32bit Windows is a different matter.
> Almost anyone who ran XP used 32bit Windows.
> I'm not saying 32bit Windows 10 needs as little RAM as 32 bit XP.  I'm
> saying that it should run well with 2gb of ram in most or the majority of
> cases.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Travis Siegel
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 2:14 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA
> Xp would run on 1gb, but it didn't run well.  windows 7 plus won't run well
> on 2gb.  I have 4 in my windows 8.1 machine, and most of the time it behaves
> ok, but at times when I have things going on in the background while doing
> other things, even that bogs down.
> XP can certainly run on 512MB, Heck, I ran it on 256MB at times, though it's
> not recommended.  My personal experience is that windows is not happy with
> less than 4GB once you get out of the XP stage.
> On 2/8/2019 2:40 PM, Gene wrote:
>   Are you basing these comments on personal experience of running 32bit
> Windows with 2GB?  That is 1Gb over the Microsoft minimum.  I don't agree
> with your assessment.  I had a Windows XP machine with only 512MB of RAM and
> it ran well.  I have a 32GB Windows 7 laptop with 4GB of RAM.  It runs
> well.
>   From: Travis Siegel
>   Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 12:50 PM
>   To:
>   Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA
>   Sure it is, if you don't multitask, (have multiple programs open at once),
> leave programs open for hours at a time, and reboot regularly (meaning every
> day or two), and don't run programs like microsoft office which has some
> memory leaks that tend to eat memory the longer they're left open.  For some
> values of normal usage, yes, 2GB is fine, but for the rest of us, 2GB barely
> qualifies as enough to run windows os by itself.  Tablets are different,
> since they have a (slightly) different version of windows that optimizes
> memory usage, but normal windows, under normal usage patterns, it will not
> be happy with only 2GB of ram, because it will have to swap a lot, and that
> will slow things down.  There's a reason computers seem to appear so much
> faster when upgraded from 2 to 4GB of ram in every single case I've seen,
> and it's because memory swapping doesn't have to occur nearly as often, and
> that makes the system much faster overall.  Sure, you can get along with 2GB
> of ram, but it's like driving a bicycle to get around as opposed to a
> motorcycle.  Sure, the bicycle will work, but the motorcycle is considerably
> faster, and can do things the bicycle can't.  Same thing with 2 vs. 4 GB of
> ram on windows.
>   Don't fool yourself, there's a reason windows states 2GB as a minimum,
> it's just that, the minimum required to run the os.  That doesn't mean the
> os will run optimally or even perform adequately, just that it will run.
>   On 2/8/2019 5:54 AM, Gene wrote:
>     That is not true.  2GB is fine for 32bit versions of Windows.
>     Gene
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Travis Siegel
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 10:27 PM
>     To:
>     Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA
>     umm, you're confusing ram and storage.  An SD card won't give you more
>     ram, that will only provide more external storage.  swapping SD cards
>     allows you to copy more files to those cards, but does nothing for your
>     RAM, which is where programs run.  2GB is poretty low for any version of
>     windows, except if you're using a tablet, there's not much you can do
>     about it. If you're on a pc, it's (usually) easy to upgrade the ram in
>     the computer, providing you have empty slots or the ram you have isn't
>     maxed out.  Most machines can only take a limited amount of ram, and you
>     need to know what that limit is before trying to upgrade the machine.
>     However, though I don't know for sure, it sounds to me like you're
>     talking about a tablet, in which case, the ram isn't upgradable.
>     On 2/7/2019 7:05 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
>     > Hello again:
>     > I thank all those who found time to respond to my issue.
>     > Brian, My GBRam is a low grid.  It is just 2GB.  But even with that I
>     > don't have this problem with JAWS.  But as I said yesterday, chrome
>     > appears to be reasonably fine with the screen reader, although
> firefox
>     > and internet explorer are almost unusable.
>     > I am thinking of increasing my GB ram with an SDCard.
>     > Regards.
>     > Ibrahim.
>     >
>     > On 2/7/19, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>     > <bglists@...> wrote:
>     >> Well I'd not go that far but it is faster on lower spec machines,
>     >> certainly.
>     >>   Brian
>     >>
>     >> bglists@...
>     >> Sent via blueyonder.
>     >> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>     >> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>     >> in the display name field.
>     >> ----- Original Message -----
>     >> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@...>
>     >> To: <>
>     >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 8:36 AM
>     >> Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Use Chrome, it is better than either Firefox or Internet Explorer.
>     >>
>     >> All the best
>     >>
>     >> Steve
>     >>
>     >> -----Original Message-----
>     >> From: <> On Behalf Of Ibrahim
> Ajayi
>     >> Sent: 07 February 2019 00:07
>     >> To:
>     >> Subject: [nvda] Problems With NVDA
>     >>
>     >> Hello:
>     >> I am having problems with my NVDA screen reader.
>     >> The screen reader is just too slow when I am browsing the internet.
>     >> When I am doing some other work like word processing or reading
> documents
>     >> off line, it is not slow.
>     >> This problem has nothing to do with the websites, as I don't have
> this slow
>     >>
>     >> problems online with JAWS.  I use a demo copy of JAWS.
>     >> Secondly, when I visit a website, or even some times when I launch a
> web
>     >> browser like internet explorer or firefox, I hear "internet explorer
>     >> unknown" or "firefox unknown" and the screen goes quiet, and when I
> press
>     >> the arrow down key, that is what I keep hearing.  Some times, when I
> am on a
>     >>
>     >> site, or trying to open a site, the screen reader crashes, and
> disables the
>     >>
>     >> computer itself.  I just have to shut it down, and then restart it
> all over
>     >>
>     >> again.
>     >> Does anyone understand the problem I am having with my NVDA screen
> reader?
>     >> I use windows7 32 bit on a laptop.
>     >> I have the latest update of the screen reader.
>     >> Hope to read a helpful response.
>     >> I am Ibrahim.
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