OK. Here is a list of everything I
see in the fire fox open menu.
Sine into synk.
Content blocking
standard.
New window.
New private window.
Restore previous
session.
Zoom 100%
Edit.
Library
Add-ons.
Options.
Customize.
Open file.
Save page as.
Print.
Find in this page.
More.
Web developer.
Help.
Exit exit fire fox.
I see nothing there that seems
related to bookmarks.
Find in this page seems to be on the
right track for searching bookmarks but it searches the
current page as you might expect.
Not only is it not an “easter egg”,
but it’s one of the choices right there in the menu bar
that’s at the top of the screen in every version of the
programme.
I'm sorry you misinterpreted my
comment. I'm saying that you assumed you couldn't manage
book marks. Instead of assuming, if you ask here or use
some sort of documentation or instructional material, you
will save yourself time and trouble, perhaps a lot. I'm
speaking in general, concerning programs and Windows.
It isn't an easter egg. There is
nothing hidden about this. It is common to have context
menus in various structures of a program.
I don't know how sighted people
learn this. I learned it because, whenever I want to see
how to do something more easily or where there appears to
be no way, if I am in a list or a menu, I look through the
context menu.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Saturday, February 09, 2019 11:46 AM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP
using Internet Explorer
Hi Gene.
You have been mostly helpful to me in
the past so I’ll be civil to you. If you understand how I
work with a computer and screen reader maybe you’ll be a
little more understanding.
I have some vision and a magnifying
glass mounted in glasses frames so I can use it hands free.
It helped me get through the university of Florida E E
program, 35 years of employment, and it still serves me in
retirement. Using this magnifier I can see the contents of
a circle about ½ inch in diameter. I can see icons and the
contents of menus. If I have more than 3 or 4 words to read
I turn the job over to a screen reader. Most makers of
screen readers assume that people are totally sighted or
totally blind with nobody between. I think the statistics
of blind and visually impaired say just the opposite. I am
aware that nvda developers have acknowledged this through
the mouse tracking feature. I have it turned on and use it
all the time. The play audio coordinates when mouse moves
would be useful to me if the tones were not so loud. I
couldn’t find a volume control that would effect only the
tones. Sorry for the digression.
Now to the current problem. I have
spent a lot of time visually looking through the menu in
fire fox and have never seen the one that is invoked by alt
B. How do the fully sighted know about this Easter egg?
Now that I know this secret I will use it regularly to
manage my bookmarks. Furthermore When I have the bookmarks
open nvda reads each line of the menu but makes no
distinction between direct links and folders. A fully
sighted person can see the menus that pop up on the right
side of the list of bookmarks but nvda makes no announcement
of folder.
You wrote of a search bookmarks
feature. I haven’t visually seen that one in the menu
either. How does it work?
What do you mean by the management
is almost nonexistent? You can move bookmarks around in
Firefox. I assume you can in Chrome as well. Instead of
assuming something isn't available or doesn't exist, ask
here or get some sort of documentation or tutorial.
You'll save yourself a lot of trouble.
Open the bookmarks menu with alt b.
Move to a bookmark in Firefox.
Open the context menu. Down arrow to cut. Press enter.
Then move to where you want the
bookmark to be. Open the context menu and find paste.
Press enter.
The bookmark has been moved.
However, I almost never move or
organize bookmarks in Firefox because of the very good
search for bookmarks feature. If you are interested, I'll
describe it.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, February 08, 2019 10:01 PM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP
using Internet Explorer
The management of favorites in chrome
and Firefox is almost nonexistent. I use explorer to update
and manage my favorites file. Why can’t programmers leave
things alone. Especially things that work.
You may not find ways that work as
well to use those sites. You may continue using Internet
Explorer with them. It’s the browser you use as the main
browser that is the issue, not the browser you use for
occasional accessibility purposes with this or that site.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosemarie ChavarrFrom: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Clarissa Mitchell
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 5:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's Own Security Chief
Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
I hardly use IE anymore at all. For me, it's either
Chrome or Firefox.
There were one or two site-specific functions I still
had to use IE for because of one thing or another, but
I'm going to find a way to access those sites with
Chrome, which is my main browser. I'm still working on
that. I haven't used IE as my main browser in ages. I
don't understand why people are even still using that
browser; it's outdated and, at least on my more recent
computers, slow as a snail! To me, there's really not
that much difference in using one of the other
browsers, from a screen reader standpoint anyway. You
can still use a lot of the same navigation commands. I
don't know about Edge; I haven't used it much, but as
far as I can tell, Chrome and Firefox work great with
NVDA.
On 2/8/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
wrote:
> Article that came out today in The Telegraph
newspaper in the UK:
>
> Stop using Internet Explorer, warns
Microsoft's own security
> chief (
> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/02/08/stop-using-internet-
> explorer-warns-microsofts-security-chief/
> )
>
> If that doesn't convince people that the shelf
life of IE is now
> expired, nothing will.
> --
>
> Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809,
Build 17763
>
> *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in
ignorance when the
> need for illusion is deep.*
>
> ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
>
>
>
>
