Re: Mouse Navigation with NVDA - Do you use it? Do you like it?


Gene
 

probably scanner software won't be able to do these things but OCR software, used with a camera already can to a limited extent.  I don't know to what extent technology will be able to do what the Optacon did, but my view is that anything that carbon based beings can do can, given enough time and technological development, be done by other methods. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Navigation with NVDA - Do you use it? Do you like it?

Hi rosemarie,
In the middle 90's, Telesensary quit making the Optacon. Not one has been
made since. People like me, who had one, has kept it working by having it
fix by only two people still alive who can fix them. It is so sad the
Opticon was put on the shelf like that, because scanner software will never
replace being able to read a pill bottle, a small piece of a label and so
on. I am so glad you had experience with one. There are old ones still
around if you can track one down Lol! Take care, and have a great one.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 7:31 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Navigation with NVDA - Do you use it? Do you like
it?

Hi, David,

Wow, that's so neat you have an opticon. I learned to use one years ago and
was actually able to read a book on it. I wonder how expensive they are.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 2:26 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Navigation with NVDA - Do you use it? Do you like
it?

Hi Ollie,
I am an Optacon user as well. For those who do not know, the Optacon has a
small camera you roll over printed material and pins vibrate on a display
that form the exact shape of the printed material. You can read any Computer
screen with the Optacon, and I can feel right where the mouse pointer is and
use the Optacon to read the print around the mouse pointer. One must get
their hands on an Optacon. In my opinion, it is the best technology there
is, but younger blind people have probably never felt one. How sad, indeed.
Have a great one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 1:29 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Navigation with NVDA - Do you use it? Do you like
it?


I read something about thie Golden Cursor, but I have no clue as to where it
can be found.
Any ideas or links, please? I'd be interested...
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 09/03/2016 17:36, Aravind R ha scritto:
> one add on called golden cursor helps us to navigate mouse using
> keyboard by typing pixal positions.
> but, we have to experiment the various pixal coordinate positions and
> learn
>
> On 3/9/16, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:
>> Hello Brian,
>>
>> I use a mouse from time to time. I have been using an Optacon since
>> 1977 (I still use it daily, especially for multilanguage book
>> reading), so using a physical mouse isn't all that complicated for me.
>> Being  used to exploring physical, printed pages, certainly
>> represents a significant advantage in mouse use.
>>
>> My main difficulty is dealing with the boundaries of the mouse pad...
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Ollie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 09/03/2016 16:15, Brian Vogel ha scritto:
>>> The subject pretty much says it all.  One of the most interesting
>>> features of NVDA from this sighted guy's perspective is mouse
>>> tracking, which announces what's under the mouse pointer, used in
>>> conjunction with the NVDA left and right click keystrokes (or the
>>> actual left and right click buttons on a mouse or mousepad).
>>>
>>> By moving the mouse around the screen you get an experience that
>>> strikes me as far more like what someone who can see gets when
>>> they're scanning a webpage quickly to see if there's anything that
>>> interests them.  Of course, it takes some getting used to, and
>>> you'll probably have to do some adjustments on mouse behavior (speed
>>> and distance of movement, coasting, and others) to get mouse
>>> movement that's comfortable for you.
>>>
>>> I'm just curious as to who may be using this method to cruise around
>>> the screen, and for any program, not just web browsers, and what
>>> your experience was like learning how to use this feature and these
>>> methods.  I realize that there are certain applications and contexts
>>> where this would be way more trouble than it's worth, too, and
>>> opinions on where it's worth using and not would be interesting.
>>>
>>> My gut tells me that it will be a small cadre that uses this feature
>>> set, but I'm trying to decide whether it's something worth trying to
>>> teach up front or not.  There's nothing like asking those who do use
>>> it, or have tried to use it, as a functional navigation alternative
>>> to help shape my thoughts on this.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>













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