Re: Some mouse navigation questions

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

I’ll check it out.  Last I checked some time ago, it didn’t do as much as JAWS, but it could be that it’s been updated.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 15 February 2019 22:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some mouse navigation questions

 

Hi!

I use Golden cursor all the time to access software that I could not any other way!

After you install the add-on, you can choose the number of pixels you want to move by in any direction.

When you press:

Windows+NVDA+P, you hear, in pixels, where the mouse pointer is on the screen.

The x coordinate is first, and Y is second.

You can save pixel positions of where you want to go.

Golden cursor allows you to do much more with the mouse than JAWS.

That add-on is the key to what you want.

Golden cursor is my favorite add-on that I use the most!

David Moore

 

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From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some mouse navigation questions

 

Hi

 

The golden cursor can do that and more. It can also do i think you call them hot points etc

 

 

I think there is also a restricted mode where you can only use the mouse with in a certain area or make it un restricted so it is not.

I am sure i read a reference to that.

 

It can be found on the nvda add ons page.

 

Gene nz

 

On 15/02/2019 10:09 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hello Jean,

 

OK, those are precise movements, but you can’t physically move the mouse up down left or right a few pixels via the keyboard.  I’ve had to do this a few times.  JAWS has better mouse control from the keyboard.  For example, go into JAWS cursor and press Alt+Shift+up, down left or right, to move the mouse by a predefined number of pixels.

 

I’ve had to do this in custom software.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 14 February 2019 22:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some mouse navigation questions

 

I haven't compared this to any extent and not for a long time.  It is my impression that JAWS is set by default, or can be set, to announce more graphics, at least in certain cases and that this may matter if you are trying to click on a clickable graphic.  But I'm not sure your distinction as to where things are on screen is correct. 

 

For example, in your example, you want to click on something on the left bottom of the screen.  There are screen review commands in NVDA to move you to the top line of the currewnt navigator object and to the bottom line of the navigator object.  There are commands to move you to the first character of the line you are on and the last character.  That is, the line you are on in the navigator object.

If I want to move to the bottom line, I would use shift 9 using the desktop layout.  If I want to move to the first character, I would then use shift 1. 

 

I can't be sure if this is the kind of thing you are describing you want NVDA to do, but it sounds as though that is part of it.  One thing NVDA doesn't have is a search the screen when in screen review feature.  This is an important feature that should be added. 

 

There are times you know a certain word or phrase is on a screen in a display with no cursor.  If you want to jump to it, you can't do so now.  If there were a find command, you could.

 

Gene

 

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 8:42 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Some mouse navigation questions

 

Again, you misunderstand what I am saying.

If you need to click on something at the bottom left hand side of the
screen, it is easier to do this with the JAWS cursor, than any feature of
NVDA.  Window-Eyes had it best of all, because it had live mouse keys all
the time.

You can move by graphic, or by clip, for example.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: 14 February 2019 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some mouse navigation questions

No, I do not  think there are any visual enhancements in nvda. The name
itself says it; Non visual display access.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Nutt
Sent: February-14-19 8:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some mouse navigation questions

No, this is not true.  Either can be used well with the mouse, and you've
taken what I'm saying out of context.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook
Sent: 13 February 2019 17:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some mouse navigation questions

Someone feel free to correct me if I am mistaken, but NVDA is designed so
that a low vision user can use the mouse.
JAWS, on the other hand, is strictly for someone that is totally blind.
Therefore, it would be less likely to be able to navigate by the mouse.














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