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So it looks like my ignorance was justified to some extent. I was
so sure that threaded view was unusable because I did my own
research on the Internet and didn't find any information about
Control+Up/Down arrows. I actually don't remember finding any
article about using Outlook with NVDA. This is a stark contrast
with Thunderbird - NVAcces has an excellent tutorial on using
Thunderbird with NVDA:
This tutorial also mentions something like "Thunderbird is the
most accessible email client to work with NVDA". I don't mean to
start email client war, I'm just saying that, because I was primed
by this tutorial. And there is no alternative tutorial for
NVDA+Outlook - or is there?
The only thing I found is an official accessibility guide for
Outlook from Microsoft:
That mentiones Control+Up/Down shortcuts, but the function that
they perform is called: "Select multiple non-adjacent messages".
Who would've thought.
Anyway, it seems to me that there is some demand for a good
tutorial on how to use NVDA with Outlook. Even though I still
personally prefer Thunderbird at this point, it is always a good
idea to have an alternative. Especially, it seems to me that
Thunderbird development slows down these days (Mozilla no longer
supports them and they are asking for donations more and more
aggressively), and a couple of years down the road we might have
to switch to Outlook as the only viable option.
On 2/16/2019 1:11 PM, Brian Vogel
You're quite welcome. To be perfectly honest, your
reaction to Outlook conversation view is far from the only one
that I've seen expressing the same sentiments. Every time I see
it my first desire is to reach out and throttle the person making
Outlook is an incredibly mature product, and
probably is the best-supported by screen readers in general. Most
of the time issues are not with Outlook, but with ignorance about
how to use it (whether that's getting it to do something you want
it to do or stop doing something you don't want it to do). I
didn't even know about the CTRL+Arrow keys and discovered it in
response to the questions raised here. I generally figure that,
when it comes to Windows based programs of the age and stature
that Outlook has achieved, that there's almost always some
keystroke sequence to do virtually anything whether I happen to
know what it is or not. I experimented to find this one, and I
also experimented to discover the two-level expansion. I found
that the latter is well documented after having discovered it
I get, more than you might think, the kind of
frustration you had expressed. But what my years "in the biz"
have taught me is that there's generally a solution I don't know
about when it seems obvious that a lot of people other than myself
would probably be screaming if there weren't.
Brian - Windows 10
Home, 64-Bit, Version
1809, Build 17763
deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep.
~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and