Re: An important message about Microsoft Windows 10 updates

Tyler Wood


I want to say that the startup failure section actually has sound. At least to the point where it asks you if you want to automatically repair, use last known restore point, etc. Of course your mileage may vary, but you certainly have a lot more flexibility compared to even a year or two ago. And you still don't have the option of speech if the computer won't even boot to that - but if that's the case it may very well be hardware over software. I haven't seen windows get so completely done for it won't even reach that point.

On 2019-03-13 5:14 p.m., Jackie wrote:
You've gotta be able to boot to a certain point first in order to do
that, Lino. Even in safe mode, if you can't enable sound via registry
fixes suggested here, you are, to put none too fine a point on it,

On 3/13/19, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Well you can restore or I should reset a PC with W 10 with Narrator.

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But, as I suspect you already know, Brian V, catastrophic failure for
a blind person & catastrophic failure for a sighted person are 2 very
different things, if only because it can be difficult to restore the
computer when there's no speech. Rather like you trying to use 1 w/a
broken monitor (& no speech, lol). Apps like Seeing AI can give you
some idea of what's onscreen, but generally not enough to be useful in
terms of selecting items etc. & sighted help, particularly competent
sighted help,isn't always easy to get. But yes--you're absolutely
right--backups are quintessential.

On 3/13/19, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 04:28 PM, Gene wrote:

I suppose that beyond a certain point, the process wouldn't be able to
but I don't recall hearing of updates doing that much damage, although I
suppose its possible in rare, perhaps very rare cases.
And that's exactly what it is. In the very early days of the 1809
there were some cases of catastrophic damage, and that's why 1809 was
virtually pulled, for all practical intents and purposes, and when it was
re-issued the speed of rollout was glacially slow for months. In this
of system health telemetry catastrophic failures are generally detected
within hours, a day at most, and immediate action to stop things can (and
has) occurred.

I have grown very, very weary of the claims that each and every Microsoft
update, including feature updates, should be viewed with trepidation and
expectation that it will cause things to get badly hosed. That is the
rare exception, which, of course, doesn't really matter if it happens to

It also points out, again, that if you (any you) care about your data
you absolutely must be taking backups. There are all sorts of things
can cause a PC to crash, the most common of which is HDD failure. But it
doesn't matter what the root cause might be, really. If you follow a
protocol and take routine backups you can restore a system in minutes
back to the state it was in when the most recent backup was taken (or
further back in time if you keep several). Backing up is absolutely the
cheapest and easiest insurance anyone can have as far as making recovery
from catastrophic failure as easy as it can be.

If ever the old saw, "By failing to plan you plan to fail," applies it
relates to taking full system image backups, plus separate user data
backups, for personal computers (and not just those running Windows).


Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need
illusion is deep.*

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

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