David,
Now I know where I'd met you before this list... Was it on the Optacon list?
Yes, the Optacon is still the most direct way to approach any printed matters or screen content, and it isn't true that it's less efficient.
When I worked at IBM, I wasn't less productive than my sighted colleagues - actually I was moer productive, if anything. That was recognised by both colleagues, boss, and users of teh service.
I used my Optacon to read the text to be translated, consult dictianries, and read teh screen.
This technical ability is now helping me a lot to profit from NVDA's capability to use a physical mouse.
Not all screen readers work well with a physical mouse, and for this I'm particularly grateful to the NVDA devs, who thought of making the programme usable in this mode also.
It's so great to have multiple choices, and technical features that integrate and complement one another.
Ciao,
Ollie
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Il 09/03/2016 23:26, David Moore ha scritto: Hi Ollie,
I am an Optacon user as well. For those who do not know, the Optacon has a small camera you roll over printed material and pins vibrate on a display that form the exact shape of the printed material. You can read any Computer screen with the Optacon, and I can feel right where the mouse pointer is and use the Optacon to read the print around the mouse pointer. One must get their hands on an Optacon. In my opinion, it is the best technology there is, but younger blind people have probably never felt one. How sad, indeed. Have a great one.
-----Original Message----- From: Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 1:29 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Navigation with NVDA - Do you use it? Do you like it?
I read something about thie Golden Cursor, but I have no clue as to
where it can be found.
Any ideas or links, please? I'd be interested...
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 09/03/2016 17:36, Aravind R ha scritto:
one add on called golden cursor helps us to navigate mouse using
keyboard by typing pixal positions.
but, we have to experiment the various pixal coordinate positions and learn
On 3/9/16, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:
Hello Brian,
I use a mouse from time to time. I have been using an Optacon since 1977
(I still use it daily, especially for multilanguage book reading), so
using a physical mouse isn't all that complicated for me.
Being used to exploring physical, printed pages, certainly represents a
significant advantage in mouse use.
My main difficulty is dealing with the boundaries of the mouse pad...
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 09/03/2016 16:15, Brian Vogel ha scritto:
The subject pretty much says it all. One of the most interesting
features of NVDA from this sighted guy's perspective is mouse
tracking, which announces what's under the mouse pointer, used in
conjunction with the NVDA left and right click keystrokes (or the
actual left and right click buttons on a mouse or mousepad).
By moving the mouse around the screen you get an experience that
strikes me as far more like what someone who can see gets when they're
scanning a webpage quickly to see if there's anything that interests
them. Of course, it takes some getting used to, and you'll probably
have to do some adjustments on mouse behavior (speed and distance of
movement, coasting, and others) to get mouse movement that's
comfortable for you.
I'm just curious as to who may be using this method to cruise around
the screen, and for any program, not just web browsers, and what your
experience was like learning how to use this feature and these
methods. I realize that there are certain applications and contexts
where this would be way more trouble than it's worth, too, and
opinions on where it's worth using and not would be interesting.
My gut tells me that it will be a small cadre that uses this feature
set, but I'm trying to decide whether it's something worth trying to
teach up front or not. There's nothing like asking those who do use
it, or have tried to use it, as a functional navigation alternative to
help shape my thoughts on this.
Brian
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