this, I am in complete agreement with, because on the whole,
the concept you're proposing flies in the face of what NVDA is
truly all about.
It has been stated time and time again, that they do not wish
to turn the software in to bloatware, and quite frankly, we have
problems a plenty with another screenreader that shall remain
nameless for that very reason.
Quite apart from the fact the other charges like a wounded bull
for a product that quite frankly should be readily accessible to
any and all blind people, and not require a government grant
just to have your computer fully functional and mildly
accessible for your work place, among other things, it's fast
becoming apparent that said product while a good many people
like it and use it, is almost becoming as big in file size as
the operating system it is supposed to make more user friendly
and while you might not utilise a particular feature set,,
others do, so it should not be removed because not everybody
uses it. it was introduced for a very good reason and some of
you are wanting that feature taken away? I'm sorry for my harsh
words, but that is rather arrogant and gauche of you to believe
that yours is the right way to go about things.
The developers have had to weigh up the costs of implementing
certain feature sets out of the box as against the footprint on
the overall system, and they have done a marvellous job at
keeping that footprint relatively small.
Hell, unlike others in the field, there is no display driver
added in to the video chain, and that, quite frankly is no bad
thing as even something as trivial as that can and does decrease
performance, especially when on the whole, UIA is a far better
way of gathering the information a screenreader needs.
On 29/04/2019 00:38, Giles Turnbull
I'm not sure I agree with much of this! I like audio ducking a
lot becuase there are often websites that start things playing
too loudly and there is no way to navigate to the volume control
if ducking is not active. I've experienced this when listening
to a podcast that I wanted to listen to and I've also
experienced it when going to newspaper sites and I have been
listening to NVDA read the article only for it to start playing
a video of some other news story and it can be difficult to
navigate down to the mute button.
As for bundling addons into NVDA I suspect many people would
find that getting close to being bloatware. The beauty of
addons is that we can choose whether to install themn or not,
and we can uninstal them if we find we don't need them or they
are interfereing with something else. I can't see (pardon the
pun) the pint in adding to the size of the NVDA executable when
not everybody is going to use, for example, the WinAmp addon. I
do use WinAmp every day but I don't use the addon becuase I
tried it and it didn't enance anything I do with WinAmp, so I
SO my vote, if you're counting them, is that I would not want
lots of addons bundled into NVDA by default.
I'm pretty sure there was a discussion on this around the time
Screen Curtain was developed. The general agreement was that the
core NVDA program should only do screen reader functions and
that things like the screen curtain or the weather app, things
which I think I remember JAWS coming bundled with (it's a long
time since I've used JAWS) were best left as addons for
individual users to decide on whether to install or not.
Just my 2 currency units' worth :)