locked Re: NVDA versus JAWS


I really need to refresh my memory on jaws commands not really sure
how to use the touch curser.

On 5/23/19, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...> wrote:

Respectfully, I find that touch cursor is able to access more than object
navigation. While I like object nav, the ability to use the keyboard to
essentially swipe is helpful. I have been able to access parts of
inaccessible programs using the touch cursor whereas object nav did not
work for me.


On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 8:53 AM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>


Touch cursor, as far as mechanics is concerned, is object navigation.


*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
*Sent:* Thursday, May 23, 2019 8:52 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA versus JAWS

One thing Jaws has implemented that is helpful is the touch cursor.

This emulates a touch screen with the cursors, whether you have a touch
screen installed or not.

Does NVDA have touch screen support?

If so, I may resource this in NVDA.

I too still switch to Jaws when I feel like I need a "jaws cursor".


*From:* Vlad Dragomir <vladdragomir1983@...>

*Sent:* Thursday, May 23, 2019 2:36 AM

*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA versus JAWS


I’m throwing out a bit of feedback as well. I use NVDA almost
nowadays. However, I keep preferring the JAWS cursor approach, compared
the concept of screen review found in NVDA. Moreover, JAWS seems to be
somewhat better at dealing with programs that haven’t been designed with
accessibility in mind. One example to illustrate this: There is a
I use a lot, it’s called Uninstall Tool. It helps uninstall programs by
also cleaning up everything they leave behind, which most stand-alone
uninstallers do not do unfortunately. In this software, there is a place
where we can choose what category of “uninstallable” apps we want to
display. That part hasn’t been designed to be reach with the keyboard.
JAWS, I can painlessly find those categories with the
the one I want, and boom, the list opens. On the other hand, when using
screen review in NVDA, those categories aren’t even being announced, it’s
as if they didn’t exist at all. Therefore, for that program and a few
others, I am forced o switch to JAWS.

Back to the original question now. Personally, I would advise having both
screen readers installed, you can never know what surprises you might
especially if you try to use different new programs for different
I truly wish NVDA became better at seeing and reporting things that it’s
not supposed to, to deal with those situations in which a software
doesn’t care about accessibility. If I’m not mistaken, JAWS uses a
driver that interacts directly with the graphic card or the video driver,
something that NVDA doesn’t do. I might be wrong here, I remember reading
about this somewhere long time ago, that’s all.

I hope this annoying story is going to help your decision a little bit.

Warm regards from Europe,



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