Re: NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube


Gene
 

I don't think that is the reason for the problem.  the person said he/she, I don't remember who posed the problem, used to find the button.  I can find it but I'm using an old version of NVDA.  It seems to me that the question is how many other people no longer see the button announced as skip ads.  The problem may be on that specific machine or affect only a small number of users, but when someone says that they no longer see text displayed on a button and just hear clickable, that means that the person is still seeing the button and that if the screen-reader were reading text, it would be read. 
 
Gene

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From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

I believe they are putting rubbish on the screen.  I don’t go there often.  I go there for songs.

 

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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: August 2, 2019 3:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

 

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

 

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

 

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

 

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

 

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

What I've faced so far?

 

If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.

 

Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jaffar,

 

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

 

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.


For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

 

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!




 

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