Re: NVDA in Employment

Andy B.

Productivity is a different story, and the answer will depend on the user and what they do at work. For me, NVDA seems more limiting than productive, especially with software/web design because unless you take the time to create your own features in an add-on like I do, then I don’t get much work done. Then again, JAWS is limiting in this aspect of accessibility as well.

Aside the user interface design, NVDA is a deal breaker with software/web development because the autocomplete features of most IDEs like VS Code, Notepad++, and Visual Studio don’t work with screen readers, or lack in usability. NVDA’s support for autocomplete in these editors/IDEs is lacking at best and adds almost 30 seconds of time to the additional time it takes to edit each line of code. Considering it takes 30 seconds to type a line of code and another 30 seconds to use autocomplete, 1 minute to type a line of code is quite slow. JAWS speeds up time with autocomplete. It only takes me 10 seconds a line of code on average because autocomplete can finish most lines of code for me, and I know what autocomplete is doing as well.


Andy Borka

Accessibility engineer


From: kelby carlson
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in Emploandenp


I do actually use NVDA at work; my IT department didn't have an issue with it, so I wasn't aware that this was even a problem.


My real question is whether NVDA leads to noticeably less productivity in employment based on user experience of those who use it at work. I don't think it does for me, but I haven't used JAWS in a long time, so I'm not sure.


That skim reading feature doesn't look quite as advanced as the one JAWS has; no text rules etc.

On Aug 25, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Andy B. <sonfire11@...> wrote:

We are getting off topic, but most IT departments don’t have the resources to look through NVDA/Open source software and determine if it’s secure enough. Then again, JAWS also has its problems getting into secured environments.



Andy Borka

Accessibility engineer


From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in Emploandenp


Anyone who suggests that open source software shouldn't be allowed in a secure

environment doesn't understand the concept of peer review and "we have nothing

to hide - look at our software and judge for yourself (I don't mean the

average user, I mean security experts) whether it's secure or not".


Proprietary software can hide all sorts of bugs and backdoors the vendor wants

to behind the cloak of secrecy.  That's not the same as security.




On Sunday 25 August 2019 at 13:38:39, kelby carlson wrote:


> Hi, everyone,


> I hope this isn't too off-topic. I recently heard an argument that NVDA is

> bad for blind prospect's in employment because it is the "dumbed down"

> solution. The person arguing this elaborated, saying that NVDA is not

> customizable/flexible enough (too chatty"), that it was not able to be

> scripted as easily, it didn't work well with as much proprietary software,

> and that it wouldn't be allowed on secure environments due to being open

> source.


> So my question is this: how many people here use NVDA for work, and is

> there a notable dilerence in level of usability with JAWS?


> Also, does NVDA have a skim reading feature like JAWS?



If you can smile when all about you things are going wrong, you must have

someone in mind to take the blame.


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