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I understand. I have found WLM on a secondary website but it
gives me an error (can't install Windows Live Mail on your
computer) when installation reaches 64%, so I guess that's out.
Microsoft recommends using the native mail app on Windows 10, but
I guess it's not as accessible (though I've given it a small try
and will try again right away, you never know!).
On 8/25/2019 7:10 PM, Gene wrote:
I mean that you have to sign into
something in Windows Live Mail itself. Microsoft won't see
your Windows Live Mail information just because you have a
Microsoft account, if you do.
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Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A point on email clients
Thanks for y6our answer. Hehe, I think Microsoft has enough
data on me, giving it my email doesn't sound great. But yeah,
let's imagine they don't keep this data! As I was saying I
really can't use Thunderbird much (even writing this somewhat
short message is a pain).
I've tried eM client today, light and fast, like I wanted, but
not accessible as far as I can tell. So I guess I will need to
find WLM somewhere. But I must admit it's a big disappointment
to me who places so much on open- source technology, so going
from Thunderbird to Microsoft is a downgrade, not in terms of
feature, but in terms of philosophy, if that makes any sense.
On 8/25/2019 6:10 PM, Gene wrote:
What is wrong with using
Windows Live Mail? And what is wrong with using Microsoft
products in general? Some of the utilities and programs
included with Windows are designed to be easy to use and
don't have options more advanced or demanding users might
want or need. But a general avoidance of Microsoft products
may lead to unnecessary problems or unnecessary time and
effort looking for something else that works well.
Windows Live Mail is completely
accessible. you can use the old menu version or the newer
ribbon version. You have to get it from someone, because
Microsoft no longer supports and distributes it.
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 10:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] A point on email clients
This has been reported for a few weeks or months and things are
worse, so I'm afraid I'll have to leave the Thunderbird
client is getting extremely sluggish. It behaves well for
but the thing is not reporting information to NVDA in less than
seconds for each key press, especially for us unfortunate
Braille. Enough is enough. Thunderbird served its purpose but I
fast email client and can't spend 2 hours reading my 100 daily
(yep, I happen to receive lots of emails).
But this "ragequit" will pose some problems. The first, and
is: what to use now? Relying on Microsoft products doesn't sit
well, I'm already doing a lot of that, but it seems there aren't
choices. For awhile I heard about an open-source email client
specifically created for accessibility, but I can't remember
name was, who created it, and Google can't help me.
So the debate is open: let's avoid the flamewar if possible, but
are you using? What would be more fitting with NVDA? I have a
- I'm running on Windows 10 (64-bit). Can't do without that.
- I have two accounts and possibly three, so I need to have
several email accounts and simple switches between them.
- I need support for iMap, which is basically the only protocol
to retreieve messages.
- Support for simple text and HTML content is obviously a strong
Thanks in advance for your advice!