Gene,



I am delighted to hear that you are working on this too!



Can I see the notes you have put together so far?

I am wondering how far to go? My own notes are a guide to reading the
contents of a Powerpoint presentation with the confidence that I am reading
everything and missing nothing. I see from other tutorials on PowerPoint
that some people would like to embellish the presentation and others ask
how
to build a presentation from scratch and then deal with the problem of
running the slide show so that only the presenter sees the notes and not
the audience.



I think we could see what we each have and then opt for modules that we can
complete for now. We could then consider what else needs to be written or
what other tutorials could be pointed to so that people can develop their
own skills.





All the best,



Cearbhall



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Hi Cearbhall



If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use PowerPoint 2010
it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it
as well. It is enough to make up a PowerPoint add extra slides play it etc.
it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.



I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in
the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your
power point tutorial is done.



I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with
a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.



I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons
first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.





Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,



I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That's a good point about the
laptop. I'll get that under way as well.



PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to
differ for older versions than those which I am using now.



I would be delighted to have the final set of instructions put up on the
web but let's prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because
I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and
misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.



The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office
2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct
or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Hi Cearbhall



The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be
used.
I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.



The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or
are these laptop ones.



I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but
that is as far as i went.



Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to
use powerpoint?



Gene nz





On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,



I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the
following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what
you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?



I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop
Pc.



Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA



1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane



For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the
slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the
subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if
no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the
slide



Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the
placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line
by
line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of
the
graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.



Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the
text placeholder at 9 above





Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.



Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of
the
slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.



control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.



The Slide Show



Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and
leaves
the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it
may
be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the
slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by
line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing
happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its
accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails
pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options
available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see
the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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Hi again,



I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.



All advice welcome, thanks!



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi,



I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several
PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with
NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?





All the best,



Cearbhall



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