Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
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Anyway, I wouldn't use jaws with any Java IDES except for
Eclipse. For some reason, Jaws lags very badly with IntelliJ
based IDES and also with NetBeans. Cheers!
On 11/19/2019 2:48 PM, Henk Mulder
Then I would ave to install Jaws just for the test, and I'dd
rather not do that. There's a reason why I switched to NVDA: It
just meets my needs a lot more.
Op 19/11/2019 om 01:56 schreef Gene:
As a test, have you considered
using a JAWS demo? If the problem isn't corrected quickly
enough, and if the program works with JAWS, a monthly JAWS
license might meet your needs.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA freezes in IntelliJ
I am aware of the accessibility history of IntelliJ. It is
getting better though. Partly because Android Studio is also
based on IntelliJ, and for Android Studio they do seem to work a
little bit on accessibility.
For me the choice for IntelliJ is more because that is what's
being used in industry. Since all my colleagues use IntelliJ,
and Eclipse does not support the way our project is organized, I
rather use what everyone else is using (if possible).
However the problem I have is not with IntelliJ accessibility. I
think there is a problem with NVDA and the Java access bridge in
general. I was hoping that someone might have a solution to
I'm also using JDK8, since that's what I require for our
project. I am running the latest update (JDK/JRE 1.8.0_231), so
I assume I also have the most up-to-date access bridge included.
Op 18/11/2019 om 21:27 schreef
HI. IntelliJ Idea has had problems with accessibility
since time immemorial. Perhaps you would consider eclipse?
Or if it is Android programming you are in to, then Android
Studio? Those aren't the best accessibility wise, but they
do work much better with NVDA. Also, you might want to
check if you have the Latest version of the Java SDK as they
concequently come with the latest version of the Java Access
Bridge. I have no idea of the degree of accessibility of
versions later then version 8 though because I have stuck to
Java 8 and all it's builds since it's inception. Cheers!
On 11/19/2019 12:19 AM, Henk
Unfortunately that won't help. IntelliJ is a Java
application. Therefore you need the Java Access bridge in
order to be able to use it with NVDA. The problem is that
the Java Access Bridge will only load if the accessibility
service is running. Thus if NVDA is not running while I
start the application, I won't be able to work with the
program since the access bridge isn't loaded.
On a similar note: if you restart NVDA while working with
the program, you also lose the access bridge and need to
restart the program as well.
Op 18/11/2019 om 16:19 schreef
What happens if you
unload NVDA, run the other program, then run NVDA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 3:33 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA freezes in IntelliJ
Using NVDA 2019.2.1, NVDA randomly freezes when I open
(Community edition 2019.2.4).
When it happens, NVDA hangs and won't report anything
switching to other applications with alt+tab). Also
IntelliJ hangs and
will not open the current project. The only thing I can do
is to start
Windows Narrator, which does keep working, and end the
via the task manager. When the IntelliJ process is killed
Is there a way to make sure, or to increase the chance,
that I can start
IntelliJ without NVDA and IntelliJ locking each other?
When NVDA is back I have the following snippet in the log
WARNING - watchdog._watcher (10:08:48.759):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 889, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 663, in
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 534, in
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46,
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 412,
File "JABHandler.pyo", line 707, in isJavaWindow