Hi Quentin,
Thanks for the detailed explanation. One of the critical deficiencies
I found in Windows 10 was non-functionality of the second screen only
technique. It works perfectly well on Windows 8.1, and therefore I was
compelled to roll back. Appreciate all the informative content though.
Thanks.

On 7/27/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

Hang on a moment, none of my machines have a monitor and I've had no issues

with previous operating systems at all. are we saying here that the windows

10 anniversary edition will sit and sulk if it has no monitor connected.

This would be very inconvenient!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:36 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Bhavya,

The new colour option doesn't allow for complete dimming of the screen.  If

you are using a desktop, you should be able to simply leave the monitor off

(although my PC looks for the monitor connection and won't start if it

doesn't detect that the monitor is already on (which is quite annoying as

the monitor actually is on, it just takes a second or so to come on).  If

you are using a laptop, you might try pressing WINDOWS+P to "Project" the

screen and choose "Second screen only" to in effect turn off your main

screen.

So what the new colour option does is simply make the Windows settings

display with white text on a black background rather than black text on

white, which is the default for most things.

You can set it in the windows options (WINDOWS+i), choose personalisation,

then colours then "Choose your app mode" and set it to "Dark" rather than

"Light".

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...>

wrote:

Hi Quentin,

Could you elaborate a bit on the dark mode you were talking about?

Does it permit complete dimming of the screen?

Albert,

Thanks for the instructions - one thing I learnt was that Ctrl + Space

is used to unselected something. Previously, I always used to create a

random folder and then delete it to have focus on nothing, to be able

to get to the New submenu on the Desktop.

Thanks.

On 7/27/16, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Then, if I have to upgrade to ten. That’s what I’ll do. Alt f 4 from

the

desktop.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of

David

Moore

Sent: July-25-16 10:20 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi,

I always just use alt+F4 on the desktop. Quick and painless LOL!

David Moore (win10 list moderator)

From: Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@...>

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:26 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

That's right, you Windows+x then u then u also works.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh okay. Sometimes I use the start to shut down. Or the desktop. So,

Now

if

I ever ended up with ten. I can do windows x and the letter u twice?

I’ll

probably use the alt f 4 on the desk top.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Quentin

Christensen

Sent: July-25-16 7:22 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Arlene,

Yes as you are doing now will work exactly the same in Windows 10.

It's

only if you access shut down from the Start menu that it's in a

different

place.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi, Quentin,

The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt

F-4

and

hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's

similar to

how you'd shut down in windows XP.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Quentin

Christensen

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the

start

menu is now three columns wide.  The left column has user account /

file

explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all

apps

(first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in

full

apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles.  You

can

still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the

context

menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:

1. Windows

2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow

you'd

have started moving down the middle app list column).

3. down arrow four times.

4. enter

5. down arrow

6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U

again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the

power

button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've

just

never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly

avoided

due

to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack

now

which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for

some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@...

<mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:

       This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2.

I

know

       the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing

since

       the earliest release.  Since these updates load automatically,

are

       there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?

       Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at

about

9 A.m. EDT.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

       --

        Steve Hoad

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reader for Microsoft Windows

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Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09