Re: Some observations on usability aspects with Firefox and NVDA


But I don't see why navigational sounds would have any bearing on the problem being discussed.  A page can fully load and then refresh in part or in whole.  If the problem is caused by refreshes, it doesn't matter if you hear such sounds.  It is also, from a security standpoint, a bad idea to run old versions of browsers that don't have the newer security patches. 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some observations on usability aspects with Firefox and NVDA

Well navigational sounds at  least should  be  fixed.
It  should autoupdate  itself.
Because mozilla removed fuel  things  don't work.
Right,  in some  instances like with some forum links  the addon   just
won't fire but   it   works  most  of the  time and where  it doesn't
it does  not  matter to  me.

On 27/07/2016 9:57 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
> Navigational sounds but you need to use firefox 46 or before. all the
> versions after this seem to screw that up and tend also to me at least
> to be a slug compared to 46.
> I hope somebody tells Mozilla about these things. Navigational sounds
> always makes a bong sound when the page has fully loaded, though of
> course some web site do continue throwing crap at you for adverts, and I
> always use  ublock on firefox now to stop all this rubbish from moving
> focus.
> Amazon seem to be particularly annoying in this respect recently. Now I
> hear clicks but nothing changes which sis just what I need.
> Brian
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felix G."
> <constantlyvariable@...>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:41 AM
> Subject: [nvda] Some observations on usability aspects with Firefox and
> Hello,
> I'd like to ask if anyone else is observing the following with recent
> versions of Firefox. When loading a page, whose title we shall define as T,
> NVDA announces chatter of the following structure:
> T Mozilla Firefox. Unknown. Unknown. T Mozilla Firefox. T document
> Now if you substitute anything substantial for T you can see how this would
> amount to a lot of sylables with no useful information content.
> Also, Alt+Tabbing to Firefox produces:
> T Mozilla Firefox, T document
> Finally, are there plans to implement a way of finding out if a page has
> been fully loaded? I quite often find myself in the middle of reading a
> paragraph when suddenly some asynchronous update happens and the review
> cursor is thrown back a few lines or to the previous heading, to name but
> two instances.
> Any suggestions on any of those?
> Kind regards,
> Felix Grützmacher
> .

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