Re: Announcing Capital Letters


Gene
 

If caps lock is on, you will hear a beep if you press shift and type a letter.  If you do that, the letter will also be lower case while all letters typed with the shift key not depressed will be upper case.  If you don't want to accidentally turn on caps lock, set NVDA to use it as an NVDA key.  There is a check box for doing so in the keyboard settings. 
If you do that, you will need to press it quickly twice to turn it on and quickly twice to turn it off.  Pressing it only once causes it to function as an NVDA key. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Thanks Chris, yes if character echo is on then it works but I can't write documents listening to every character typed.
Is this the only way I get feedback to recognise if caps log maybe on accidently?
Thanks for your assistance.
Kind Regards
Colin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 28 December 2019 18:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi Colin
It should work if you have character echo on (NVDA+NumRow 2) when typing, if you just use word echo (NVDA+NumRow 3), you won't hear the pitch change.

Cheers
Chris

On 28/12/2019, Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...> wrote:
> Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review
> a typed word with the left and right arrows but not when I am typing
> so unless there is a separate setting for typing feedback maybe it is
> to do with my synth.
> Kind Regards
> Colin
>  unless
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Chris Mullins
> Sent: 26 December 2019 23:48
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>
> Hi
> Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then.  I use 50% to
> make it obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases.
> At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he
> uses, I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal preference.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> That is not correct.  Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched
>> for some synthesizers.  It may be alright for others.  the default is
>> 30 percent and I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a
>> lot of synthesizers.
>> also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from
>> one synthesizer to another.  It is very unlikely that a new user
>> would turn them
>> off.   Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer
>> or
>> some problem with the NVDA installation.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Chris Mullins
>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>
>>
>> Hi
>> Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure
>> the check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is
>> on" is checked.  This will cause a beep to sound if you type a
>> shifted letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
>> Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
>> the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
>> pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50%  This will make it
>> obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
>> reading letter by letter.  Note: Ensure you  have "Speak typed
>> characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on
>>> the list.  the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in
>>> using such software.  If you want Eloquence that functions
>>> properlhy, you can ppurchase either an add-on for it or an MSAPI
>>> version of Eloquence.  I and other list members would be happy to
>>> provide more information.  You can try demos of both, if you wish.
>>>
>>> Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
>>> notification works properly.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Colin Phelan
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>>
>>> You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not
>>> come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and
>>> thanks Colin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>
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>>>   You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the
>>> shift key and type a letter.  NVDA by default raises the pitch of
>>> capital letters.
>>> If
>>> you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using.  The first
>>> thing we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of
>>> the synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.
>>>
>>>   Gene
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Colin Phelan
>>>   Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
>>>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>   Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>>
>>>   I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however,
>>> I cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am
>>> typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by
>>> accident.
>>>
>>>   Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings
>>> are saved in case this is the issue.
>>>
>>>   Thanks
>>>
>>>   Colin
>>>
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