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Re: FW: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,

This mostly concerns browsers, and Slack might be affected if accessed from the web.

An important update: the workaround I described earlier no longer applies if using NVDA 2019.3 or later.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 7:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

 

Any idea if Microsoft Teams app or Slack are effected by this transition to UIA?

For that matter, is there a way to check for apps like these that are using Chromium as their base?

Jonathan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 at 1:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge...

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From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:25 PM
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Subject: [win10] Edge 79: if your screen reader is having trouble working with web content shown in Edge... #ChromiumEdge

 

Hi all,

 

Someone reported on JFW list (hosted on Groups.IO) that the user cannot interact with certain web content displayed in Edge 79 beta, along with a thread on Win10 forum about inability to interact with web content shown in Edge with other screen readers. This issue can be traced to the fact that, in Edge 79 (upcoming stable version), UI Automation is enabled (several reports were sent to Microsoft about this issue). Unfortunately, as an NVDA core developer (not me) notes, UIA implementation in Chromium-based web browsers (including Edge) isn’t solid yet.

 

To work around this for now, you need to disable UIA support in Edge and other Chromium-based web browsers (if your browser exposes this option). To do so in Edge 79:

 

  1. Start new Microsoft Edge (not the old one).
  2. From address omnibox (Alt+D), type “edge://flags” (without quotes and as exactly as shown) and press Enter.
  3. Type “UI Automation” into “search flags” and press Tab to move through resulting content (no, DO NOT PRESS ENTER AFTER TYPING FLAGS!).
  4. Go to “Native UI Automation” combo box and select “disabled”.
  5. Press Tab to go to “Restart” button and click it.

 

Screen reader specifics:

 

  • Narrator: supports native UI Automation
  • JAWS: works better with native UI Automation off
  • NVDA: works better with UI Automation off and a fix is being developed
  • Other screen readers: contact vendors

 

Cheers,

Joseph
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