----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 3:43
PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] abbyy fine reader 15
issues
Hmmm, well its 189 bucks but yeah.
With all the accessible scanner solutions either in doubt or just not
updated or in limbo, bar maybe text cloner which costs 50 or so dollars less
than mainstream software.
Its another thing.
I know we as blind will find it better using specialised software, however
I think in my opinion that if we want to try to get more software accessible
and integrate a bit more into the sightling world that were we can we should
use mainstream to a point.
If its not at all accessible, I understand but if it is accessible or at
least usable and the company is receptive to us then I'd push for full
access.
Its not going to make everyone help us or everything accessible.
Steam for example has variable access though its going chromium so that may
change, to quite a lot of third party security tools and there may be
more.
Access has come a long way mind you.
A lot of games are accessible.
And anything that has to do with reading, office documents and recognition
seems to have stronger accessability than standard.
And while its not always the case, it seems to be the smaller the maker the
more ready they are to change.
It would be nice if all the big companies were accessible but if not all
the big, the small to medium stuff.
One thing I have noticed not just in fine reader, but other places, is the
mentallity that if it works with jaws, then it works for everything.
And while that has been the case for a while, I am unsure if it still
is.
Back when I did use jaws 6, I knew that like nvda it was heavily script
driven.
However like older pre xp windows 98, where every bit of hardware needed a
driver installed and you had to get a lot of those yourself, everything needed
a thirdparty script at least thats what it felt like to me.
Probably not everything but I remember having to get scripts for things
that in other readers I had like supernova didn't need scripts to even work
properly if at all.
Never mind the licencing which again, was not the best, ie, home for
windows home, pro for windows pro.
It didn't bring me more features, at least they seemed to have ditched that
scheme now.
On 14/01/2020 7:53 am, Gene wrote:
You shouldn't, but it sure is nice to save
eight or nine hundred dollars and get the current version.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] abbyy fine reader 15
issues
Well its not exactly difficult, but its just I should be able to read the
window is all.
Like I should be able to scroll the combo boxes in options and access the
menus without delays.
I didn't have this issue on finereader version 12 to 14 as such though
others I know say that some of the buttons had issues but I never had them
so I can't really comment.
On 14/01/2020 7:38 am, Gene wrote:
If the window appears to be blank, what
happens if you select all, then copy it to the clipboard, and paste it
into Notepad?
In a very old version I used to use, my
recollection is that if I did that, then scanned another page, new text
replaced the old and I could add pages by copying and pasting. It
was a little extra work but if you are going to save eight or nine hundred
dollars, its worth it.
I don't recall what was inconvenient or
difficult to use regarding the recognized text in the window.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] abbyy fine reader 15 issues
Hi.
I am in discussons with abbyy on the fine
reader program.
Can someone else test the latest v15 please, the
trial will do,
1. do the combo boxes in options not read when
scroling.
2. is there a delay on all the menus in particular
the file menu and
are all things read.
3. is the ocr
editor working right and reading things.
In my case the file menu
delays in both nvda and narator of course abyy
want me to use jaws
which I won't be doing, though narator does work.
Options do read
though narator does speak a lot of extra info.
Nvda reads the
options but you have to tab and shift tab a bit when
scroling.
When I have used the ocr editor the main window where
text is seems to
be blank.
These may be spaciffic nvda issues
and how it interacts, maybe it needs
an addon.
Maybe after we
switch over to 2019.3 I may look into seeing how to write
addons
maybe.
