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Re: edge showstopper maybe

Gene
 

The whole point of betas is to be used by many people to get reports on problems.  If people don't want possible problems, then they shouldn't run betas.  I didn't have new users in mind in terms of running betas.  Others who have used a lot more beta software than I have may wish to comment about betas in general.  My impression is that betas put out by reputable developers are generally not dangerous, as you describe some betas you ran, and I have never heard of betas of NVDA trashing anything such as Windows or other programs.  And in the case of NVDA, people may wish to run the portable as a beta and still have their nonbeta version installed.  There are certain things portable versions of NVDA can't do in Windows 10 but you can do a lot of evaluation in that way.
 
My concern is that your comments are so generalized and, I suspect take a much darker view of betas put out by responsible developers than is justified, that you may frighten people away from trying NVDA betas and thus reduce the pool of users testing for problems. 
 
I have never seen beta used in such a way as to connote cobbled together.  Alpha software is     more the kind of thing you are describing, but beta connotes software that is nearly on the verge of being released and it is being tested to see if unexpected problems occur because programs behave differently on different systems. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] edge showstopper maybe

And there you have hit the nail on the head jean.

For those that want to test it.

Thats not all users.

If I was a new user, I wouldn't like the idea of having to run a beta just to use something necessarily its like cobbling something together just to access something which I should have access to anyway and doesn't sit right.

It may be different for you, and betas are fine if you want.

Now I don't think the majority of users do, or at least some may not.

I don'

't have figures to back me up either way but still by mentioning the words alpha or beta it implies something that is makeshift, not secure, not stable, could trash windows, could do who knows what.

I have had issues with some software when I got started that took me ages before I realised it was that software and it did put me off testing for a bit.

Things became unstable, windows needed reinstalling, cleanly each time, and this was before win10.

I eventually found the issue and I was able to get it fixed.

Point is, even though I know what I am doing most of the time, I am not that yung pup that goes round reformatting to make things go away as I used to do 15 years ago even though I may autoshrug it on list which I won't do anymore because thats stupid and I just do that for no reason.

I actually want to use my computer.

My life is to busy to really think about things screwing up, unless, I am getting payed for it which from time to time I do.

I am approaching the question of the word beta from a beginner user, and not some people that know the software.

Now I realise our opinions may differ, a lot of them do on other lists and thats fine.




On 16/01/2020 8:18 am, Gene wrote:
I'm not saying the concern isn't valid.  I'm saying that describing the beta as not stable may discourage people from using it.  Add-ons and stability are two separate matters and I suspect the beta is quite stable for those who want to test it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] edge showstopper maybe

Hi,

He is using 2019.2.1 (if I read his posts correctly).

Shaun raised a valid concern: it isn’t feasible to use 2019.3 beta 2 (required to use Edge 79 fully) due to add-ons situation. I’m thinking about a possible temporary workaround for users in this situation.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] edge showstopper maybe

 

What version of NVDA are you using?  One of the developers sent a message a day or two ago saying that the new beta doesn't freeze with the new Edge browser.  I doubt you are using the new beta.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:53 AM

Subject: [nvda] edge showstopper maybe

 

Hi.

There are a few big issues.

I was moving round setting things up and nvda froze up completely and I
had to restart it

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (03:58:43.407):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (03:58:44.369):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - NVDAObjects.behaviors.LiveText._monitor (03:58:45.331):
Error getting initial lines
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyo", line 270, in _monitor
   File "NVDAObjects\window\winConsole.pyo", line 54, in _getTextLines
   File "winConsoleHandler.pyo", line 126, in getConsoleVisibleLines
   File "wincon.pyo", line 75, in GetConsoleScreenBufferInfo
WindowsError: [Error 6] The handle is invalid.
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (06:35:56.948):
error executing event: gainFocus on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at
0x05A68690> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
   File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
   File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 598, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
COMError: (-2146233079, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (06:36:24.200):
error executing event: gainFocus on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at
0x05BEFD50> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
   File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
   File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 598, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
COMError: (-2146233079, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (06:37:14.160):
error executing event: gainFocus on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at
0x0573D2D0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
   File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
   File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 598, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
COMError: (-2146233079, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:04.387):
Core frozen in stack:
   File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
   File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
   File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
   File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
   File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
   File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
   File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:19.440):
Core frozen in stack:
   File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
   File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
   File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
   File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
   File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
   File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
   File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:34.496):
Core frozen in stack:
   File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
   File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
   File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
   File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
   File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
   File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
   File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 590, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:49.542):
Core frozen in stack:
   File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
   File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
   File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
   File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
   File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
   File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
   File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:40:04.601):
Core frozen in stack:
   File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
   File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
   File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
   File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
   File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
   File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
   File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
I got this when I restarted the brouser.

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:49:02.773):
Core frozen in stack:
   File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
   File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
   File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
   File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
   File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
   File "speech.pyo", line 416, in speakObject
   File "speech.pyo", line 289, in speakObjectProperties
   File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
   File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1090, in _get_keyboardShortcut
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 744, in
_getUIACacheablePropertyValue

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:49:17.822):
Core frozen in stack:
   File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
   File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
   File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
   File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
   File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
   File "speech.pyo", line 416, in speakObject
   File "speech.pyo", line 289, in speakObjectProperties
   File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
   File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1090, in _get_keyboardShortcut
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 744, in
_getUIACacheablePropertyValue

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:49:32.858):
Core frozen in stack:
   File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
   File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
   File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
   File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
   File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
   File "speech.pyo", line 416, in speakObject
   File "speech.pyo", line 289, in speakObjectProperties
   File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
   File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1090, in _get_keyboardShortcut
   File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 744, in
_getUIACacheablePropertyValue
Based on this, and even though I can get this right now I am going to
uninstall it and wait.

It looks like you can uninstall anyway.
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