Re: Speech on demand addon for NVDA, and a bug in Microsoft office


Gene
 

That may be from the application itself, but I think errors generally regarding an application come from Windows.  If something crashes, Windows informs you of the error. 
 
Gene
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Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech on demand addon for NVDA, and a bug in Microsoft office

Hi Gene,
Makes sense. To be honest, key conflicts never crossed my mind, because
the majority of shortcuts that NVDA use I've only really used in screen
readers, but of course there are some keys that aren't specifically tied
to the NVDA modifier and so that could cause problems.
The other thing that confused me is that sleep mode must be process
specific rather than window specific, because if I activate sleep mode
(for test purposes) in my email client (Thunderbird), sleep mode remains
in the message list and in the message reading window as well, so I
think it would also remain asleep during errors or other dialogs coming
from the application.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 17/02/2020 01:22 pm, Gene wrote:
> Sleep mode puts NVDA to sleep while in the window you execute the
> command in.  If you don't want speech in a certain Window, such as a
> self-voicing program, you can put NVDA to sleep there and it will be
> active in any other window.  the advantage instead of a universal speech
> off command is that if you get an error message or some other message
> from Windows, you will still be aware of it.  You can also move out of
> the window and do other things without turning speech on, then having to
> turn it off again.  If you are using an OCR program such as Kurzweil or
> Openbook for example, you would want to hear error messages such as
> scanning failed, which comes from the scanning part of the program, even
> if you are using a self-voicing OCR program and you want NVDA to be
> asleep. thus avoiding key conflicts as well.  It is an important feature.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Damien Garwood <mailto:damien@...>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 5:53 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Speech on demand addon for NVDA, and a bug in
> Microsoft office
>
> Hi,
> Sleep mode doesn't technically turn speech off, as it still speaks while
> alt+tabbing through windows. So I guess if you want it completely silent
> you'd have to turn speech off and then sleep mode on. But then again I
> guess in those circumstances you may as well just unload NVDA...
> To be honest though, I've personally never really seen a need for sleep
> mode. In JAWS, which takes control of the whole keyboard (or at least
> used to), it would seem logical to put it to sleep for playing games
> that use an input system like DirectX or whatever that is sure to
> interfere. But NVDA doesn't have such a limitation - I don't think
> there's a single game where I've had to put NVDA to sleep and the two
> have cooperated very nicely indeed. The one thing I do is to turn
> keyboard echo off so I don't get distracted by NVDA chattering at me
> every time I press a key, but yet I've got it for other things in case
> of crashes, errors or other dialogs that might show up. Add that to the
> beauty of configuration profiles, and you're laughing.
> Cheers,
> Damien.
>
> On 17/02/2020 11:11 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
>  > Ah ok thanks.  The other option you can use to "pause" NVDA is sleep
>  > mode, which not only turns speech off, but disables the NVDA commands as
>  > well in case you need those for your application.  The command for sleep
>  > mode is NVDA+shift+s or in laptop keyboard layout, NVDA+shift+z.
>  >
>  > Kind regards
>  > Quentin.
>  >
>  > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:30 PM Cuong Dang Manh
> <dangmanhcuong@... <mailto:dangmanhcuong@...>
>  > <mailto:dangmanhcuong@...>> wrote:
>  >
>  >     Hi Quentin
>  >     speech on demand works similar to Toggle Speech Mode command in
>  >     NVDA. As you know, it'll temporary turns speech off it case such as
>  > recordign streaming.
>  >     abdul muhamin, press NVDA+S for that feature. We have three mode:
>  >     speak, beeps and talks.
>  >     Let try
>  >     Cuong!
>  >     On 2/17/2020 2:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
>  >>     What would such a speech on demand add-on do?
>  >>
>  >>     Are you using any add-ons or anything else?  I can't replicate the
>  >>     read only issue with Word myself. I'll keep thinking on what else
>  >>     it could be.
>  >>
>  >> Regards
>  >>
>  >> Quentin.
>  >>
>  >>     On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 11:08 PM abdul muhamin
>  >>     <abdulmuhamin600@... <mailto:abdulmuhamin600@...>
> <mailto:abdulmuhamin600@...>> wrote:
>  >>
>  >> Hi guys, is there a speech on demand like jaws, available for
>  >>         NVDA? I think it will be very useful in some of the apps.
>  >>
>  >> More over, I’m using ms office 2016 pro, with latest NVDA, and
>  >>         I’ve enabled UI automation, after opening any document in
>  >>         word, NVDA says read-only before reading a line, I think it’s
>  >>         a bug, and needed to be fix, because with UI automation
>  >>         enabled, NVDA response more better.
>  >>
>  >> Sent from Mail
>  >> <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>     --
>  >>     Quentin Christensen
>  >>     Training and Support Manager
>  >>
>  >>     NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:
>  >> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/
>  >>
>  >> Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org>
> <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
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>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Quentin Christensen
>  > Training and Support Manager
>  >
>  > NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:
>  > https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/
>  >
>  > Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org>
> <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
>  > Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>  > Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
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>  >
>
>
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