Re: NVDA Crashing while reading Word document


Arlene
 

I googled it. You are right. This PC in windows ten is my computer.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: March 4, 2020 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

 

I don't have Windows 10 but this PC is, from what I've read, the same as My Computer.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 11:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

 

Neither  did I. That’s the one thing I did like about windows 7. When using windows key E it went to the windows explorer.  Using that command in win ten it’s something else. it’s This Pc.  I don’t know why but that’s what it is. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: March 4, 2020 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

 

thanks gene for remembering and helping me. God bless you!

me too.

i did not use this command, except for a very rare occasions.

but one person told me that one of the advantages of windows seven

over xp is openning my computer with windows e command, its great in

list view.

and i tested on my laptop that opens my computer in a treeview and i

should use tab once for going to the list view.

and, also, i tested with windows seven which activated computer in

list view at the first time without using tab.

 

On 3/4/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> I think that's true.  I almost never use that command.  I should have

> specified that I am describing Windows XP since that is, as far as I know,

> generally what you use and I know how it works in that version of Windows.

> I use that command so little that I wasn't sure if there was a difference.

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: zahra

> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 12:24 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

> for me, when i press windows e nvda says my computer but in treeview.

> i should press tab key one time to return to the list view.

> when i tested with windows seven,

> windows e opened computer in list view at the first time without using

> extra key for me!

> i dont know about other versions of windows and there behaviour.

> On 3/4/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

>> Windows e opens Windows Explorer which is somewhat like the file list in

>> my

>> computer.  But it has a tree view as well.  Pressing it twice opens

>> another

>> window of the same utility so you now have two Windows Explorer windows

>> opened.  Close the windows with alt f4.  Press it until the windows are

>> closed.  I would think two times would be sufficient.  You can tab to the

>> list view from the tree view but I see no reason to use Windows e unless

>> you

>> want the tree view.  If you use My Computer, you can see everything in

>> that

>> way.

>> 

>> Gene

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: zahra

>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2020 9:38 PM

>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

>> 

>> 

>> hi Quentin.

>> i wanted to learn how can access temp files.

>> i tried both run and windows plus e.

>> unfortunately, when i press windows plus e again,

>> temp will be opened for me and i cant no longer access my computer

>> with these key again.

>> what should i do to again have my computer when i press windows plus e?

>> thanks and God bless you!

>> 

>> On 3/4/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

>>> NVDA keeps its log in the %temp% folder (you can usually get to that

>>> either

>>> by pressing WINDOWS+R, typing %temp% and pressing ENTER, or from Windows

>>> Explorer (WINDOWS+E) press F2 to get to the address bar, type %temp% and

>>> press ENTER).

>>> 

>>> The log for the currently running NVDA (or most recently run copy if

>>> NVDA

>>> isn't currently running) is nvda.log.  The log from the time before that

>>> is

>>> nvda-old.log.  So, if NVDA has crashed and you've restarted it, the log

>>> from that previous time when it crashed should be nvda-old.log.

>>> Additionally, if NVDA has crashed, there should be a file called

>>> nvda_crash.dmp which has a lot of extra information we can use to work

>>> out

>>> exactly what happened.  If you send us all of those files we can have a

>>> look.  If you have a copy of the offending word document you are able to

>>> send us, that could be helpful too.

>>> 

>>> As usual, if you can recreate the issue with NVDA's log level set to

>>> "debug" and add-ons disabled, that really helps too.

>>> 

>>> Quentin.

>>> 

>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:59 AM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <

>>> cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

>>> 

>>>>         Hi, Quentin and team,

>>>> I am currently reading a straightforward Word document which involves

>>>> some

>>>> technical information and so I need to arrow back and forth to verify

>>>> information. NVDA crashed a few times for no apparent reason. Then I

>>>> found

>>>> that when I used the "numpad 2" key to identify a character in the

>>>> text,

>>>> NVDA crashed. I had to restart NVDA each time. The document was not

>>>> disturbed nor did I lose my position only NVDA seemed to suffer. When I

>>>> restarted NVDA there was no longer an active log for the previous

>>>> fault.

>>>> 

>>>> Question: Is there any way to trap the log after a crash?

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> All the best,

>>>> 

>>>> Cearbhall

>>>> 

>>>> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun

>>>> Everiss

>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 6:06 PM

>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>>>> Subject: [nvda] ccleaner new version

>>>> 

>>>> Hi all.

>>>> 

>>>> Well there is a new version out of ccleaner.

>>>> 

>>>> CCleaner hasn't had a new version in ages, however, the following

>>>> things

>>>> have been done.

>>>> 

>>>> 1.  all those nice tweaks in the ccleaner.ini no longer function so you

>>>> can't manually turn off healthcheck or updater or whatever it is

>>>> called.

>>>> 

>>>> At first there is an announcement when you start.

>>>> 

>>>> Don't for any reason interact with it because you will then not be able

>>>> to

>>>> close ccleaner, just hit alt f4 and it will just do whatever.

>>>> 

>>>> 2.  sadly the old options/ lets turn off healthcheck and only use

>>>> custom

>>>> cleaning button seems to be skipped over by nvda so I don't know, I may

>>>> try

>>>> with another reader and then see if that puts something in the ini

>>>> file.

>>>> 

>>>> 3.  healthcheck just like the previous quick clean is a great program,

>>>> its

>>>> just completely unusable by us.

>>>> 

>>>> They thankfully left custom clean alone, however this is probably it,

>>>> if

>>>> they in any way screw up custom clean, then I am going to have to

>>>> completely abandon ccleaner because I just can't interact with it

>>>> anymore.

>>>> 

>>>> I am seriously thinking about sending a recording to ccleaner support

>>>> and

>>>> all that because we can't even navigate these announcements or

>>>> healthcheck

>>>> itself, maybe have them set it so its not going to be active anymore or

>>>> something.

>>>> 

>>>> If only we could choose the option that would be a different thing but

>>>> we

>>>> can't.

>>>> 

>>>> As of now, this ini file is still usefull for its intended purpose of

>>>> custom cleaning adjustment so you don't have to interact with the

>>>> inaccessible front panel but thats all.

>>>> 

>>>> For now if wanting to do something click either tools for custom clean

>>>> before you do anything, do not hit anything else other than that.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>> 

>>> --

>>> Quentin Christensen

>>> Training and Support Manager

>>> 

>>> NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:

>>> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

>>> 

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>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> --

>> By God,

>> were I given all the seven heavens

>> with all they contain

>> in order that

>> I may disobey God

>> by depriving an ant

>> from the husk of a grain of barley,

>> I would not do it.

>> imam ali

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> By God,

> were I given all the seven heavens

> with all they contain

> in order that

> I may disobey God

> by depriving an ant

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> I would not do it.

> imam ali

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

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