Re: ccleaner insites? accessible? discussion maybe?
That isn't an accessibility question. If something is offered during installation that a sighted person can see by the installer, it must be accessible to a screen-reader. If something is accessible on a web site, where an offer may be posted with some way to refuse, such as a check box, from an accessibility standpoint, that is adequate. If the installer shows something and that thing is accessible, again, that is enough from an accessibility standpoint.
Whatever else you are asking for is something related to design or how clear companies should make these offers. They often aren't shown in an obvious manner to sighted people, or not as clearly as they should be, maybe they are on a page with all sorts of other options. If a blind person can look at the options, that is accessible. Blind people are just as responsible for reading things on pages as sighted people are. You can't use accessibility arguments to argue that a company change its ethics or design if its just a question of a blind person doing what anyone should do, read everything or enough of everything that you don't miss something, such as the beginning of every line on installation pages other than obvious navigation links.
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner insites? accessible? discussion maybe?
Hmmm to be honest, I have half a mind as I said to tell them that we don't want any extra software installed!!!
If they need adds, put them in a readable webpage at the end if they need sponsorship, heck, nagg us about buying on a after install webpage if they must, but we shouldn't have to bother about bundled software.
Its why I use goldwave a 40 dollar us program instead of cdex because cdex has addon software, and why I quit using the dvdvideosoftware package and got pontes media which doesn't do this stuff and brought the applian suite wasting 200 us bucks and of which I hhardly used because dvdvideosoftware had so much spyware in it and other unwanted stuff that by installing it one day I basically bricked my laptop, and even after removing the software in question had to reformat because it left a mess behind.
I think its time we tell the software makers that while we like and may buy their stuff, having adds shoved down our throats will drive us away or at least will make us gnash our teeth behind their backs.
I shouldn't have to worry about what is being loaded to use my systware.
I have had to give up good software because of foisted bundled stuff.
Excluding software which installs chrome for me because that at least is usefull I have had to go to a lot of trouble to get stuff that does not try to give me a really bad and public deal.
Its just the way I feel.
I have noticed that the user seems to be happy to have second place and put up withh things but this is the new world now, the virus has got rid of the old one and in this world I think its time for users to fight for the choice of what we want to run and what we want to install.
CCleaner has a slim installer but even so.
On 28/05/2020 2:28 pm, Gene wrote: