Re: Some NVDA Questions

Chris Mullins

HiIt’s more to do with the synthesizer in use.  For example if I use Notepad and open the file menu, the first item is voiced as “New control+n n”, indicating I can use Alt+f n or Control+n to open a new notepad document.  If I check this menu entry by letter it is actually written as “New Ctrl+n n” and it’s the synthesizer in my case Onecore Mark that speaks C T R L as Control, not NVDA.  I realise this is the opposite of what you are getting but you could always put an entry in the synthesizer dictionary, replacing cntrl with Control whenever it is encountered but be careful you do not compromise other word pronunciations, particularly in the case of the “ctl” abbreviation of Control.





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Sent: 27 June 2020 00:37
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some NVDA Questions


    Ok I won't worry about the unknown. :)


    I know how the menu system works. If one has super memory then

knowing all the shortcuts would be fine.


    What I am talking about is that NVDA will not read 'ctrl' as

'control' but spells the letters out. Another one might be F3 for find

next. NVDA reads that as 'f3n'. I have a hearing impairment so this

makes it more difficult to understand.


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On 6/26/2020 4:08 PM, Gene wrote:

> Unknown means something, it could be anything, is unknown to NVDA.  NVDA

> is simply telling you that it doesn't know how to read something.

> Often, it doesn't matter.  If you hear what you should, it doesn't

> matter.  Its just clutter.  If you hear unknown instead of what you

> should hear, then there is a problem and there is probably nothing you

> can do because the screen-reader itself doesn't know what something is.


> I'm not sure what you are asking for in terms of how control plus letter

> is read.  For example, in a new menu, new document may be control n.

> New message in an e-mail program may be control n.  In both cases, you

> are creating something new, a new document you are going to work with or

> a new message you are going to write.  You must hear control and the

> letter. Either by itself means nothing.


> The purpose of such short ccuts is to avoid opening a menu.  You execute

> a command directly from the program window.  You will also hear the menu

> shortcut when you are moving through a menu.  For example, you might

> hear new message as a menu item, then control n, then a letter.  The

> letter is the short cut you use when you are in the menu.  For example,

> in a file menu new something may have a control n short cut.  It may

> also have a letter, such as d.  I've never seen d used in this way, it

> is an example.  Let's say it means document.  If you want to use the

> shortcut that opens the menu, you would use alt f then d for new

> document.  If you want to bypass the menu and use only one command, you

> would use control n.


> Gene

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> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:50 PM

> To: NVDA

> Subject: [nvda] Some NVDA Questions


>     I am more comfortable with Voiceover but need to keep running

> Windows for some applications.


>     First, I'm still using NVDA 2019.2 because I have one purchased

> voice. Have any new voices been added to later versions? The purchased

> voice is Voiceover's Samantha voice or close to it.


>     One web pages, and maybe elsewhere, sometimes I hear 'unknown'. Not

> sure what element is spoken that way. Can I change it?


>     When NVDA speaks shortcuts, for example, ctrl-a, it speaks the

> letters. Can I change this so 'control' is spoken instead? Thanks much.


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