Re: Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

Cearbhall O'Meadhra



I normally keep Tables unchecked in the document formatting settings in NVDA because NVDA becomes extremely sluggish when it is set and frequently lapses into Unknown. When I leave Tables unchecked, I can still set the row and column headings and the NVDA response is much sharper.


Does this make sense?


All the best,




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From: <> On Behalf Of Sam Taylor via
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Automatic Column and Row Header Reading


Thank you, Tyler. No, it wasn't, and this is precisely what I needed to do. I have this off for usual activity, and clearly I'm going to have to set up a trigger. If this isn't mentioned in the documentation along with the need for enabling row/column headers which I did know about, it may be worth including.

Thanks again.



On 14/07/2020 9:31 am, Tyler Spivey wrote:

Is Tables checked in NVDA, Preferences, Settings, Document Formatting?
If not, check it.
On 7/13/2020 3:46 PM, Sam Taylor via wrote:
Thanks Cearbhall,
I have constructed a test workbook without any blank lines. Still I
cannot get NVDA to read the coordinates as it should. I have tested with
NVDA 2019 and 2017 with the same result, so I am beginning to wonder
whether there is some type of setting in Excel itself which is causing
this to happen.
On 13/07/2020 11:00 pm, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Have you any blank columns separating blocks of columns. If so, you
would need to set the column headings on the first cell in the heading
row of each block to make NVDA call out the column headings for that
All the best,
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*From:* <> *On Behalf Of *Sam
Taylor via
*Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2020 11:08 AM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Automatic Column and Row Header Reading
Yep, I did that also, but still nothing appears to change. I followed
the example in the Excel with NVDA study material.
On 13/07/2020 6:00 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
    You need to tell NVDA where the headers are for it to read them. 
    Press NVDA+shift+c to set column headers and NVDA+shift+r to set
    row headers.  Note that you need to be in the first cell you want
    headers read.
    On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:30 PM Sam Taylor via
    <> <samtaylor9@...
    <>> wrote:
        Hi all,
        11.2.1 of the NVDA user guide mentions that NVDA is able to
        automatically announce appropriate row and column headers when
        navigating around Excel worksheets.
        I used to be able to achieve this but it doesn't appear to
        work for me any more, and indeed as of NVDA 2019.3.
        The cell coordinates just appear to read as usual, rather than
        reading any additional cell references.
        I have enabled the Report Table row / column headers option in
        NVDA's Document Formatting settings.
        y duCan anybodyplicate or suggest anything? This is highly
        likely to be user error.
    Quentin Christensen
    Training and Support Manager
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