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I agree Enes's opinion.
Manufacturers implement many different configurations for their
sound cards, and this distorts the screen reader's audio,
occasionally down the synthesizers's audio, etc.
Manufacturers do not offer a good UI/accessible UI for changing
This makes us dependent on someone else while changing these
I have friends using Lenovo and Asus.
And they do nothing but spoil the sound of NVDA.
Also, your programming for years is not an obstacle to discussing
On 05/09/2020 20:10, enes sarıbaş
Brian, out of curiousity, what sort of issues would this cause.
I really despise the software enhancements that come with
soundcards, and think it is laptop manufacturerers trying to
make their cheap audio hardware sound good. It interfeers with
naturalness of audio, and alot of sighted users have a desire to
disable signal processing as well, for a purerer music listening
experience. If I find I cannot disable enhancements on my next
machine easily, I will pay for an external DAC that has no
signal processing for unenhanced audio, as audiophiles often do.
Additionally, the issue with documentation listing specific
effects is that there is no uniformness of effects in soundcard
drivers iether. Realtek for example has bathroom, running water,
consert effects etc.
On 9/5/2020 12:03 PM, Brian Vogel
On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 12:48 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
But Brian, the problem remains that these
enhancements mess up audio output of NVDA, especially
compression effects, due to eloquence being a formant
synthesizer, probably what happens is it compresses some of
the phonemes at the beginning and end of utterances.
Then if one is using said synthesizers the synth makers should,
as part of their installation documentation, tell you
specifically what should be turned off. Or, better yet, have
the capability of probing whether a given something is on and
turning it off (or vice versa) that is applicable to its
What you propose is a solution that would create many, many
other potential problems, rather than focusing the solution on
the specific situation. That never makes sense. It's asking
for the law of unintended consequences to come roaring in.
And if you're going to argue with me about this, don't. Having
been a programmer for many, many years I know about this sort of
situation all too well and I won't be changing my mind. I've
always said "tool to task" and that applies as far as "specific
solution to specific problem" rather than casting an overly
broad net that is very likely to catch all kinds of proverbial
fish that you'd rather avoid.
Brian - Windows 10
Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041
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