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I have contacted realtech about some sound issues, and have never
got a responce.
So you can forget that idea.
I think the real problem started years ago when someone decided
to intergrate the soundcard with the display chip in my opinion.
I think that was 2014 or there about.
In fact the real issue probably started in 2000 when soundcards
were onboard soundcards and you didn't have room for physical
speakers and analog controlers but no one is going back on either
of those concepts.
On 6/09/2020 5:34 am, Joseph Lee wrote:
I think a better approach is contacting
sound card manufacturers directly and explain the situation to
them. Talking to synthesizer makers may or may not help, as
some synths were developed by folks no longer in business or
synth makers may say that this is a sound card driver problem.
I agree Enes's opinion.
Manufacturers implement many different configurations for
their sound cards, and this distorts the screen reader's
audio, occasionally down the synthesizers's audio, etc.
Manufacturers do not offer a good UI/accessible UI for
This makes us dependent on someone else while changing these
I have friends using Lenovo and Asus.
And they do nothing but spoil the sound of NVDA.
Also, your programming for years is not an obstacle to
discussing this problem.
On 05/09/2020 20:10, enes sarıbaş wrote:
Brian, out of curiousity, what sort of issues would this
cause. I really despise the software enhancements that come
with soundcards, and think it is laptop manufacturerers
trying to make their cheap audio hardware sound good. It
interfeers with naturalness of audio, and alot of sighted
users have a desire to disable signal processing as well,
for a purerer music listening experience. If I find I cannot
disable enhancements on my next machine easily, I will pay
for an external DAC that has no signal processing for
unenhanced audio, as audiophiles often do.
Additionally, the issue with documentation listing specific
effects is that there is no uniformness of effects in
soundcard drivers iether. Realtek for example has bathroom,
running water, consert effects etc.
On 9/5/2020 12:03 PM, Brian Vogel
On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 12:48 PM, enes
But Brian, the problem remains that
these enhancements mess up audio output of NVDA,
especially compression effects, due to eloquence being a
formant synthesizer, probably what happens is it
compresses some of the phonemes at the beginning and end
Then if one is using said synthesizers the synth makers
should, as part of their installation documentation, tell
you specifically what should be turned off. Or, better
yet, have the capability of probing whether a given
something is on and turning it off (or vice versa) that is
applicable to its functioning.
What you propose is a solution that would create many,
many other potential problems, rather than focusing the
solution on the specific situation. That never makes
sense. It's asking for the law of unintended consequences
to come roaring in.
And if you're going to argue with me about this, don't.
Having been a programmer for many, many years I know about
this sort of situation all too well and I won't be
changing my mind. I've always said "tool to task" and
that applies as far as "specific solution to specific
problem" rather than casting an overly broad net that is
very likely to catch all kinds of proverbial fish that
you'd rather avoid.
Brian - Windows
10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041
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who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.
~ Oscar Wilde
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