Re: In-Process for 7th September is out


molly the blind tech lover
 

I have eSpeak's rate set to 65, with rate boost turned off.
With OneCore the rate is set to 30 with rate boost turned on.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 9:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] In-Process for 7th September is out

What do you consider very fast speeds? I can listen to Eloquence at an estimated 420 words per minute using the American dialect before speech becomes increasingly unpleasant to listen to and increasingly hard to understand. Since my comprehension goes down at that fast a speed, I usually listen at about 350 words per minute.

Gene
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From: David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] In-Process for 7th September is out

While Espeak isn't my primary synthesizer it was for many years and there are times when I still find it beneficial. As others have said it is very easy to understand it at very fast rates of speed. Also, synths like Espeak have a very predictable way of pronouncing words. Many of today's more human sounding voices tend to do odd, unexpected and sometimes jarring things to certain combinations of letters that can really interrupt the reading flow. Not to mention that Espeak may well be one of the most responsive synths in NVDA.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/8/2020 8:40 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hi.
I often switch between OneCore and Espeak.
I use OneCore for reading novels, but I like to use eSpeak for reading
email, and using Webex for school, when I need to have NVDA speak
information quickly.
I find that I can understand eSpeak at much faster rates than OneCore.
So I am glad we have both options ☺

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 12:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] In-Process for 7th September is out

As far as e-speak, my favorite voice in that one is male 2.



On 9/7/2020 9:22 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020, Leslie wrote:

As Iʼve said before, I just love NVDA. And it has all the features I
need being an average computer user. I do think that NVDA. Should
add more of the truly great voices that are out there. I love the 1
core voices and I also love Nuance. I think that Cortana voice is
one of the best.
Iʼd like to see
her added to NVDA. Without charge. I think the original voices that
NVDA. Had are now pasee and should be droped because their quality
isnʼt good anymore.
What do you guys think?
I think by "original voices", you mean Espeak. That being the case,
I couldn't disagree more.

Its quality may not be what you want, but Espeak, in my workflow,
sounds much better and more clear at high rates of speed than OneCore
does. Plus, One Core is just not my cup of tea. Too many pauses, and
it does weird things to some words.

How does it hurt anything to continue including Espeak? It isn't the
default, and if you don't like it, you don't have to use it.

Which is the point: different people like different things, and "most
human like" of the voice is not a quality that everyone values or
weights equally. Clarity and comprehensibility at significant rates
of speech is much more interesting to me.

Plus, I'm pretty sure eSpeak supports many more languages than most
of the higher quality voices, although I could be wrong about that by now.

Luke






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